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From: "Jeremy Jackson" <jerj@coplanar.net>
To: "dean gaudet" <dean-list-linux-kernel@arctic.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@zip.com.au>
Cc: <joeja@mindspring.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: faster boots?
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 10:43:21 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <007901c1dcd1$c446bb90$7e0aa8c0@bridge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0204042330270.10358-100000@twinlark.arctic.org>

It may be interesting to note that SGI's XFS has a
"realtime section" or some such, which has no metadata,
only data blocks.  Perhaps DMAPI has methods for moving
files around on a live fs.  If you know what you want in there.

Jeremy

----- Original Message -----
From: "dean gaudet" <dean-list-linux-kernel@arctic.org>
To: "Andrew Morton" <akpm@zip.com.au>
Cc: <joeja@mindspring.com>; <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: faster boots?


> On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> > I guess the greatest benefit would come from reorganising the
> > layout of the root filesystem's data and metadata so the
> > pagecache prepopulation doesn't have to seek all over the place.
>
> windows xp does this automatically (but it takes a lot of idle time before
> it'll start playing with your disk)... search for "bootvis" at
> microsoft.com, that tool can force the reorganization to occur.  it's
> worth 10%ish there as well (quite noticeable on laptops).  they appear to
> reorganize the boot-time files into one big contiguous region.  that's
> fetched into their equivalent of the page cache with sequential reads.
>
> it's certainly interesting theory -- trying to do disk layout which is
> optimised for particular access patterns... it's kind of a hack to do this
> just for boot time, but definitely educational :)
>
> in some ways, the filesystem is the wrong place to do this type of
> activity -- you could approach the problem as a block layer device between
> the fs and the hardware which maintains statistics on access patterns and
> moves blocks around to optimise access time -- which lets you fix all
> sorts of seeking problems.  i guess the challenge would be maintaining a
> map of logical block number to physical block number.  hmm.  guess that's
> kind of hard.
>
> -dean
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-05 18:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-04 23:54 faster boots? joeja
2002-04-05  0:21 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-05  1:00   ` Jeremy Jackson
2002-04-05  0:26 ` Andrew Morton
2002-04-05  2:18   ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-05  2:51     ` Andrew Morton
2002-04-05  3:00       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-04-05  3:21         ` Alan Cox
2002-04-05  5:38           ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-05 12:49             ` Alan Cox
2002-04-05 16:33               ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-05 23:02               ` Itai Nahshon
2002-04-05 23:07                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-04-06  0:07                   ` Itai Nahshon
2002-04-06  0:29                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-04-07 14:42                     ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-08  0:48                       ` Itai Nahshon
2002-04-08  0:57                         ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-08  1:14                           ` Andrew Morton
2002-04-08  4:17                             ` Andre Hedrick
2002-04-08  9:57                             ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-08 16:43                               ` Jamie Lokier
2002-04-08 16:48                                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-04-08 21:09                                   ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-09  0:56                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2002-04-09 22:22                                     ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-12 10:44                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2002-04-12 11:42                                         ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-12 14:29                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2002-04-14 19:40                                             ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-15 13:34                                             ` Philipp Matthias Hahn
2002-04-08 17:08                             ` Mark Mielke
2002-04-08 17:49                               ` Rene Rebe
2002-04-08 18:02                                 ` G . Sumner Hayes
2002-04-08  6:02                           ` Oliver Neukum
2002-04-08 17:06                             ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-08 16:13                               ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-08 15:16                           ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-08 17:32                             ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-08 18:31                               ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-08 18:40                                 ` David Lang
2002-04-08 18:56                                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-04-08 19:06                                     ` David Lang
2002-04-08 19:27                                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-04-08  8:03                         ` Helge Hafting
2002-04-08 12:38                           ` Rogier Wolff
2002-04-08 14:41                           ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-08  9:55                         ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-08 12:15                         ` Rogier Wolff
2002-04-08 12:09                     ` Rogier Wolff
2002-04-05  6:14           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-04-05 12:45             ` Alan Cox
2002-04-05 13:04         ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-05 21:33           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-04-05  5:26       ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-05  7:45   ` dean gaudet
2002-04-05 18:43     ` Jeremy Jackson [this message]
2002-04-05  0:44 ` Piotr Esden-Tempski
2002-04-05 13:37   ` Mauricio Nuñez
2002-04-05  1:11 ` Ross Vandegrift
2002-04-05  1:55 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-04-05 12:56 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-10  1:20   ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-04-05 19:08 ` Mark H. Wood
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-04-05  2:10 joeja
2002-04-05  7:44 ` Helge Hafting
2002-04-05 12:13   ` Thomas 'Dent' Mirlacher
2002-04-05 15:14   ` Luigi Genoni
2002-04-05  8:00 willy tarreau
2002-04-05 13:06 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-05 13:21   ` willy tarreau
2002-04-05 15:29     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-05 16:20       ` willy tarreau
2002-04-05 23:10     ` Itai Nahshon
     [not found] <3CACEF18.CE742314@zip.com.au.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0204042330270.10358-100000@twinlark.arctic.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-04-05  8:41   ` Andi Kleen
2002-04-05 18:23 Torrey Hoffman
2002-04-06 17:53 Re: " Alan Cox
2002-04-06 19:01 ` Joe
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0204051403200.7124-100000@mhw.ULib.IUPUI.Edu >
2002-04-07 20:10 ` Stevie O

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