From: "Nicholas Knight" <nknight@pocketinet.com>
To: <yodaiken@fsmlabs.com>, "Roman Zippel" <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: "David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
"Larry McVoy" <lm@bitmover.com>,
"Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
"Wolfgang Denk" <wd@denx.de>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: patent on O_ATOMICLOOKUP [Re: [PATCH] loopable tmpfs (2.4.17)]
Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 08:58:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <009701c204ce$28a325f0$6407070a@blue> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020526072637.A18692@hq.fsmlabs.com> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0205261607470.17583-100000@serv> <20020526082142.C18843@hq.fsmlabs.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: <yodaiken@fsmlabs.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:21 AM
> On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 04:09:46PM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sun, 26 May 2002 yodaiken@fsmlabs.com wrote:
> >
> > > > It's been asserted that the patent licence requires that _all_
userspace
> > > > apps running on the system by GPL'd. Yet there are many Free
Software
> > > > applications in a standard Linux distribution that are under
> > > > GPL-incompatible licences. Apache, xinetd, etc...
> > > >
> > > > If that interpretation is true, it _would_ be a problem, and not
just for
> > > > those trying to make money from it.
> > >
> > > That interpretation is not just false, it is silly.
> >
> > Then why don't you specify in the license what "use of the Patented
> > Process" means?
> >
> > bye, Roman
>
> It means just what it says.
I'm going to stick my nose in here because this is just getting plain
absurd.
Having read the patent license as best I can, I'm going to ask a question
that evidently nobody has felt the need to ask plainly and clearly. Either
that, or nobody has bothered to actually read the patent license.
If I modify the Open RTLinux software that FSMLabs provides, and distribute
the modified version under the GPL, and then use a feature I added through
the modification in a program I'm distributing under a non-GPL license, am I
in violation of the Open RTLinux patent license?
This seems to be what's confusing people. And is a little confusing to me,
but my guess is that the answer is "yes, you are in violation of the patent
license".
The "use it for whatever you want unmodified" terms of the patent license
seem stupidly straightforward, so I can't see how THAT is causing any
confusion.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-05-26 15:58 UTC|newest]
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2002-05-24 20:26 ` patent on O_ATOMICLOOKUP [Re: [PATCH] loopable tmpfs (2.4.17)] Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-24 21:18 ` Anton Altaparmakov
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2002-05-24 21:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-24 23:05 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-24 23:22 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-24 23:53 ` Alexander Viro
2002-05-25 4:31 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 4:44 ` Larry McVoy
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2002-05-25 6:05 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 7:59 ` Thunder from the hill
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2002-05-25 16:20 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 16:25 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-25 16:41 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 22:47 ` Robert Schwebel
2002-05-26 1:06 ` Andrew Morton
2002-05-26 5:45 ` Robert Schwebel
2002-05-25 17:47 ` Kurt Wall
2002-05-25 18:13 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-05-25 19:21 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-25 18:32 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 18:38 ` Mark Mielke
2002-05-25 17:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-25 17:49 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 20:07 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-25 20:29 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-05-26 2:53 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-26 2:17 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-05-25 20:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-25 21:19 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 17:50 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-05-25 18:02 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-25 18:26 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-05-25 18:44 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-25 19:04 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-05-25 19:52 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 20:36 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-25 20:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-05-25 21:05 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-25 21:20 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-05-25 21:23 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-26 2:46 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-26 3:33 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-25 21:44 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-25 23:16 ` Robert Schwebel
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2002-05-26 5:48 ` Robert Schwebel
2002-05-27 5:28 ` Calin A. Culianu
2002-05-27 22:12 ` Mark Mielke
2002-05-25 21:14 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-26 2:09 ` David Schleef
2002-05-26 3:17 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-26 3:45 ` David Schleef
2002-05-26 4:03 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-26 19:40 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-26 19:06 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-26 20:17 ` Alexander Viro
2002-05-26 20:33 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-26 21:33 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-26 20:44 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-26 9:13 ` patent on O_ATOMICLOOKUP [Re: [PATCH] loopable tmpfs (2.4.17)]y Der Herr Hofrat
2002-05-26 14:13 ` Robert Schwebel
2002-05-26 16:31 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-26 3:58 ` patent on O_ATOMICLOOKUP [Re: [PATCH] loopable tmpfs (2.4.17)] Alexander Viro
2002-05-26 4:13 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-26 7:30 ` Alexander Viro
2002-05-26 14:42 ` yodaiken
2002-05-26 16:17 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-26 16:27 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-25 18:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-25 18:22 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 18:33 ` Mark Mielke
2002-05-25 18:45 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 23:27 ` Robert Schwebel
2002-05-25 18:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-25 19:14 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 19:41 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-25 18:30 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-05-25 18:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-25 21:22 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-05-25 21:33 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-25 21:39 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 21:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-05-25 22:05 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-25 22:13 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 22:17 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-05-25 23:10 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-25 23:54 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-05-26 4:05 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-26 6:25 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 23:56 ` Robert Schwebel
2002-05-26 3:40 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-26 8:05 ` Robert Schwebel
2002-05-26 8:58 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-05-25 22:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2002-05-25 22:34 ` Erwin Rol
2002-05-25 23:17 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-25 23:37 ` Robert Schwebel
2002-05-25 23:46 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-26 0:01 ` Robert Schwebel
2002-05-26 10:11 ` David Woodhouse
2002-05-26 13:04 ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-26 13:26 ` yodaiken
2002-05-26 14:09 ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-26 14:21 ` yodaiken
2002-05-26 15:30 ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-26 16:55 ` yodaiken
2002-05-26 18:00 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-26 18:29 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-26 21:45 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-26 21:58 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-05-26 22:12 ` Erwin Rol
2002-05-26 22:34 ` Robert Schwebel
2002-05-26 22:07 ` Mark Mielke
2002-05-26 22:18 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-26 18:20 ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-26 15:58 ` Nicholas Knight [this message]
2002-05-27 2:42 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-25 22:58 ` Robert Schwebel
2002-05-26 0:48 ` Erik Andersen
2002-05-26 5:31 ` Robert Schwebel
2002-05-26 10:19 ` Erik Andersen
2002-05-25 6:08 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-25 4:48 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 5:00 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-25 9:02 ` Robert Schwebel
2002-05-25 17:34 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-05-24 23:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-25 3:13 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 3:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-25 3:46 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 4:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-25 4:25 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-25 4:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-25 5:53 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-25 4:52 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-25 9:08 ` Robert Schwebel
2002-05-25 17:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-25 20:30 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-26 2:51 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-26 4:11 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-26 19:37 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-26 20:05 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-27 15:27 ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-25 22:33 ` Robert Schwebel
2002-05-26 0:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-25 20:34 ` Pierre Cloutier
2002-05-26 0:44 ` Linus Torvalds
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2002-05-26 0:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-26 3:12 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-05-26 4:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-26 4:25 ` yodaiken
2002-05-26 13:50 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-05-26 3:28 ` patent on O_ATOMICLOOKUP - Warning actual technical content yodaiken
2002-05-26 3:36 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-26 4:00 ` Andrew Morton
2002-05-26 5:38 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-05-26 1:21 ` patent on O_ATOMICLOOKUP [Re: [PATCH] loopable tmpfs (2.4.17)] Roman Zippel
2002-05-26 5:44 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-27 4:12 ` Calin A. Culianu
2002-05-25 9:05 ` Robert Schwebel
2002-05-25 8:59 ` Realtime Linux Situation Robert Schwebel
2002-05-24 21:57 ` patent on O_ATOMICLOOKUP [Re: [PATCH] loopable tmpfs (2.4.17)] Andreas Dilger
2002-05-24 22:37 ` Alan Cox
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2002-05-27 21:36 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-24 21:56 ` patent on O_ATOMICLOOKUP [Re: [PATCH] loopable tmpfs (2.4.17)] Alexander Viro
2002-05-24 22:46 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-24 22:53 ` Alexander Viro
2002-05-27 21:52 Adam J. Richter
2002-05-27 23:26 ` Alan Cox
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2002-05-30 22:37 patent on O_ATOMICLOOKUP [Re: [PATCH] loopable tmpfs (2.4.17) ] Ed Vance
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