From: "Hua Zhong" <hzhong@cisco.com>
To: "'Timothy Miller'" <miller@techsource.com>
Cc: "'Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz'" <B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl>,
"'Peter Williams'" <peterw@aurema.com>,
"'Marc Boucher'" <marc@linuxant.com>,
"'Sean Estabrooks'" <seanlkml@rogers.com>,
"'Linus Torvalds'" <torvalds@osdl.org>,
"'Paul Wagland'" <paul@wagland.net>,
"'Rik van Riel'" <riel@redhat.com>, <koke@sindominio.net>,
"'Rusty Russell'" <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
"'lkml - Kernel Mailing List'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"'David Gibson'" <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:58:48 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <009e01c42ee5$2e89fc80$ca41cb3f@amer.cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40929F5B.9090603@techsource.com>
> WINE is a user process. It does not run in kernel space, so we don't
> care about it. Since all the closed-source stuff, like
> Office, runs in user space, it CANNOT corrupt the kernel (barring real
> kernel bugs).
>
> I think Linus needs to smack you down like he did with that guy who
> couldn't understand the distinction between firmware and a
> kernel driver.
I think he doesn't, because he can read what other said. I know what
distinction it is and I've been working on kernel for years since I was
still in school.
I'm not arguing about the taint issue, or any technical issue, as clearly
stated in my last paragraph. I am mearly responding to the questioning to
Linuxant's business model.
> As long as the kernel is protected, we are generally in favor of it.
>
> > Linuxant did a wrong thing by working around the warning
> > message, but I don't think it's fair to accuse of their business
> > because they allow binary drivers run on Linux.
>
> The fact that binary drivers are "evil" does not reflect badly on
> Linuxant, in my opinion.
It doesn't look like so to me.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-04-30 18:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 202+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <009701c42edf$25e47390$ca41cb3f@amer.cisco.com>
2004-04-30 19:19 ` [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license Linus Torvalds
2004-04-30 19:37 ` Hua Zhong
2004-04-30 22:47 ` Allowing only "-g" compiled modules! (was: [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license) Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-04-30 20:11 ` [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 20:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-30 20:39 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 20:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-30 20:53 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 21:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-30 21:10 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 20:46 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-04-30 20:34 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-04-30 20:47 ` A compromise that could have been reached. " Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 21:07 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 21:16 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-30 21:38 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 22:05 ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-01 2:36 ` Tim Connors
2004-05-01 0:40 ` Jorge Bernal
2004-05-01 5:07 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-05-01 19:12 ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-01 19:27 ` Davide Libenzi
2004-05-01 19:32 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-05-01 19:33 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-05-01 22:14 ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-05-01 19:47 ` Nicolas Pitre
2004-05-01 20:53 ` [PATCH] clarify message and give support contact for non-GPL modules Marc Boucher
2004-05-01 21:34 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-05-01 21:48 ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-01 21:53 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-05-01 22:22 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-05-01 22:53 ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-01 23:10 ` viro
2004-05-02 7:04 ` Xavier Bestel
2004-05-04 17:06 ` Timothy Miller
2004-05-01 22:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-01 23:28 ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-02 0:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-02 1:02 ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-02 12:43 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-05-02 13:05 ` Paul Rolland
2004-05-02 15:35 ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-02 15:45 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-05-04 17:09 ` Timothy Miller
2004-05-01 20:47 ` [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license Martin J. Bligh
2004-05-01 20:58 ` Marc Boucher
2004-05-03 0:04 ` Horst von Brand
[not found] ` <40929F5B.9090603@techsource.com>
2004-04-30 18:58 ` Hua Zhong [this message]
2004-04-30 20:14 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-04-30 20:02 Keith D Burgess Jr
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2004-04-30 17:47 Keith D Burgess Jr
2004-04-30 18:39 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 19:37 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-30 20:37 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-29 14:55 Rick Zeman
2004-04-28 18:56 Keith D Burgess Jr
2004-04-28 23:45 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-30 22:48 ` David Woodhouse
[not found] <20040428011348.GA22754@hockin.org>
2004-04-28 1:33 ` Robert M. Stockmann
[not found] <20040428003034.GA20811@hockin.org>
2004-04-28 0:56 ` Robert M. Stockmann
[not found] <20040428000952.GA19522@hockin.org>
2004-04-28 0:18 ` Robert M. Stockmann
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2004-04-27 22:59 ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-04-27 23:05 ` Tim Hockin
2004-04-27 23:30 ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-04-27 23:41 ` Tim Hockin
2004-04-27 23:59 ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-05-01 9:19 ` Tomas Szepe
2004-04-27 22:17 Nick Warne
2004-04-27 21:34 Robert M. Stockmann
2004-05-01 9:15 ` Tomas Szepe
2004-04-27 19:03 Steve Lee
2004-04-27 19:37 ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-04-27 13:43 Albert Cahalan
2004-04-27 16:18 ` Jon
2004-04-27 16:58 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-27 17:25 ` Adam Jaskiewicz
2004-04-27 17:33 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-27 17:46 ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-27 17:53 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-04-27 18:10 ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-27 20:37 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-27 20:44 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-04-27 18:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-27 19:03 ` Jorge Bernal (Koke)
2004-04-27 19:16 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-04-27 19:41 ` Jorge Bernal (Koke)
2004-04-27 20:18 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-28 11:23 ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-27 18:10 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-27 18:30 ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-27 20:40 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-28 0:08 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-04-27 19:54 ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-04-28 11:28 ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-27 23:12 ` Rusty Russell
2004-04-28 0:02 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-28 0:25 ` David Gibson
2004-04-28 1:14 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-28 3:23 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-28 6:04 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-28 17:05 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-28 17:37 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-28 19:31 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-28 19:46 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-29 0:02 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-29 0:40 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 2:20 ` Kenneth Aafløy
2004-04-29 2:31 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-29 2:36 ` Ian Stirling
2004-04-29 2:38 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-29 2:47 ` Ian Stirling
2004-04-29 2:47 ` Kenneth Aafløy
2004-04-29 22:47 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-04-30 15:57 ` Paulo Marques
2004-04-29 15:15 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-29 15:14 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-29 21:00 ` Paul Wagland
2004-04-29 21:36 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-29 21:45 ` viro
2004-04-29 21:47 ` Jorge Bernal (Koke)
2004-04-29 22:24 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-29 22:32 ` Tim Hockin
2004-04-29 22:49 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-29 22:40 ` viro
2004-04-29 23:55 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-04-30 2:15 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 4:18 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-04-30 4:32 ` Peter Williams
2004-04-30 14:49 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-04-30 16:10 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 20:01 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-04-30 4:43 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-04-30 5:44 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 6:13 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-04-30 8:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-04-30 8:48 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-04-30 15:06 ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-04-30 15:43 ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-30 16:10 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 16:30 ` Chris Friesen
2004-05-10 6:25 ` Rogier Wolff
2004-05-10 7:08 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-04-30 16:31 ` Gilles May
2004-04-30 16:50 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 17:44 ` Michael Poole
2004-04-30 18:46 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 19:17 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 18:26 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 18:52 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 18:22 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 18:01 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 8:47 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-04-30 9:31 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-30 15:57 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 17:14 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-30 17:46 ` Sean Estabrooks
2004-04-30 18:27 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 11:49 ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-30 16:20 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 21:03 ` Gene Heskett
2004-04-29 20:24 ` [hsflinux] " Timothy Miller
2004-04-29 21:32 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-29 22:12 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-29 22:20 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-29 23:01 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 6:01 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2004-05-06 15:06 ` Pavel Machek
2004-04-30 9:16 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-28 23:43 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-28 1:57 ` Rusty Russell
2004-04-28 3:28 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-28 11:47 ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-28 16:15 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-28 19:32 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-28 19:41 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-29 22:41 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-04-29 23:03 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 13:06 ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-28 14:03 ` Tom Sightler
2004-04-28 16:40 ` Marc Boucher
2004-04-28 22:08 ` Stephen Hemminger
2004-04-28 23:00 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-28 23:54 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-27 23:17 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-04-28 2:10 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-27 2:09 Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-04-27 3:13 ` Gilles May
2004-04-27 4:42 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-04-27 9:58 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-04-27 4:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-27 6:04 ` Rusty Russell
2004-04-27 9:21 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-04-27 10:37 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-04-27 12:59 ` Paulo Marques
2004-04-27 17:05 ` Juergen E. Fischer
2004-04-27 18:58 ` Pavel Machek
2004-04-28 22:55 ` Timothy Miller
[not found] ` <fa.f05evul.1qmg8gd@ifi.uio.no>
2004-04-27 21:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2004-04-27 21:33 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-28 23:24 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-27 18:52 ` Pavel Machek
2004-04-27 5:26 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-04-27 7:03 ` Grzegorz Piotr Jaskiewicz
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