From: "Dr. Keith G. Bowden" <k.bowden@physics.bbk.ac.uk>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, "Li Yang" <leo@zh-kernel.org>
Cc: "Rob Landley" <rob@landley.net>,
"Gerrit Huizenga" <gh@us.ibm.com>,
"Kunai, Takashi" <kunai@linux-foundation.jp>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:17:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <00a701c7c78a$2478cfa0$8700a8c0@btlooksmart.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 469A6370.4020404@zytor.com
What I would like to see is the Americans learning English as a FIRST
language.
Keith (England)
----- Original Message -----
From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: "Li Yang" <leo@zh-kernel.org>
Cc: "Rob Landley" <rob@landley.net>; "Gerrit Huizenga" <gh@us.ibm.com>;
"Kunai, Takashi" <kunai@linux-foundation.jp>; <holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>;
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>; <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>;
<lf_kernel_messages@linux-foundation.org>; <mtk-manpages@gmx.net>;
<jack@suse.cz>; <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>; <gregkh@suse.de>; <pavel@ucw.cz>;
<tim.bird@am.sony.com>; <arjan@infradead.org>; <sam@ravnborg.org>;
<jengelh@computergmbh.de>; <joe@perches.com>; <auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com>;
<hansendc@us.ibm.com>; <davem@davemloft.net>; <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>;
<kenistoj@us.ibm.com>; <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>;
<heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>; <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer
> Li Yang wrote:
> >
> > I think you worried too much about this problem. :) Let me explain
> > the situation here in China more clearly. Actually, English is
> > mandatory in most schools and universities. Only very few people
> > learn other language as a second language. Therefore software
> > developers who are almost educated should have the basic English
> > skill. However, that doesn't mean that they can read English or
> > communicate with native English speaker very easily. Consider your
> > second language learn in school for analogy.
>
> Actually, I disagree. English *is* the second language learned in
> school for most European developers (except, obviously, the ones from
> the British isles), and we don't have that problem.
>
> > Read in English will be much slower and more likely to cause
> > misunderstanding. This will
> > reduce the likelihood greatly of English documentation being read. If
> > we are promoting contribution to the Linux community, we should
> > maximum the possibility that these key documents being read.
> > Translation will serve this purpose very well.
>
> What we have found in Europe, is that that it has limited value, and
> that the closer to the core you are, the less value it is, because at
> that stage you should be communicating more with other developers.
> Putting yourself behind a wall of translation is unfortunately a
> detriment in that way.
>
> -hpa
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-16 9:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-13 15:06 [RFC/PATCH] Documentation of kernel messages holzheu
2007-06-13 16:37 ` Dave Hansen
2007-06-13 17:11 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-13 17:42 ` holzheu
2007-06-13 16:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-06-13 18:09 ` Rob Landley
2007-06-13 18:11 ` holzheu
2007-06-14 8:47 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-06-15 8:49 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-13 17:16 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-06-13 17:46 ` holzheu
2007-06-13 17:51 ` Greg KH
2007-06-13 18:18 ` holzheu
2007-06-13 18:32 ` Greg KH
2007-06-13 18:49 ` Dave Hansen
2007-06-13 18:49 ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-14 8:17 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-06-13 19:04 ` Joe Perches
2007-06-14 2:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-06-14 7:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-15 8:51 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-13 18:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-14 8:31 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-06-14 9:41 ` Jan Kara
2007-06-14 10:38 ` holzheu
2007-06-14 11:47 ` holzheu
2007-06-14 12:26 ` Jan Kara
2007-06-14 15:22 ` holzheu
2007-06-15 18:42 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 18:51 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-06-15 19:27 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 20:01 ` Greg KH
2007-06-18 12:55 ` holzheu
2007-06-18 13:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-18 13:33 ` Jan Kara
2007-06-18 13:53 ` holzheu
2007-06-19 1:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-19 8:51 ` holzheu
2007-06-19 19:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-19 11:31 ` holzheu
2007-06-19 5:41 ` [Lf_kernel_messages] " Kunai, Takashi
2007-06-18 13:11 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-18 15:35 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-06-19 0:13 ` Tim Bird
2007-06-19 3:52 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 12:40 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-18 13:42 ` holzheu
2007-06-18 14:02 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 13:48 ` Documentation of kernel messages (Summary) Michael Holzheu
2007-06-25 15:44 ` Rob Landley
2007-06-25 18:05 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-27 15:11 ` Michael Holzheu
2007-07-09 5:15 ` Kunai, Takashi
2007-07-09 5:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-09 16:48 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-09 17:18 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-07-10 16:12 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 12:15 ` Michael Holzheu
2007-07-11 14:26 ` Li Yang
2007-07-11 18:13 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 21:32 ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-13 10:53 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-13 12:49 ` Li Yang
2007-07-13 13:43 ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-13 13:25 ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-13 21:10 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-13 18:05 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-14 3:54 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-15 1:56 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 16:28 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-16 19:53 ` Rob Landley
2007-08-03 18:11 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-03 19:32 ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04 3:50 ` Greg KH
2007-08-04 19:02 ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04 3:52 ` Greg KH
2007-08-04 18:54 ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04 20:04 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-06 15:50 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 21:53 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-12 16:56 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-12 13:53 ` Li Yang-r58472
2007-07-12 16:05 ` [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer Rob Landley
2007-07-12 19:52 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-07-12 20:02 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-13 7:42 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-07-13 16:06 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-13 12:43 ` Li Yang
2007-07-13 17:52 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 14:42 ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 18:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-15 18:50 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-15 19:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-15 20:25 ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-16 4:40 ` Ganesan Rajagopal
2007-07-16 21:43 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-17 7:19 ` Ganesan Rajagopal
2007-07-15 18:53 ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 20:25 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 9:17 ` Dr. Keith G. Bowden [this message]
2007-07-16 2:49 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-16 3:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-17 16:24 ` Li Yang
2007-07-17 21:06 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-12 16:41 ` Documentation of kernel messages (Summary) Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-12 17:35 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-13 2:54 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-13 17:12 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-14 1:46 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-15 2:12 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 16:46 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-17 16:06 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-17 23:30 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-13 11:54 ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 20:30 ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-09 18:33 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-10 16:25 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-10 18:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-10 19:53 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-17 0:31 ` Tim Bird
2007-07-17 1:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-17 16:42 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-17 16:29 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-10 7:59 ` Li Yang-r58472
2007-07-10 6:38 ` Dave Young
2007-07-09 7:01 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 22:59 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-10 6:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 18:10 ` [Lf_kernel_messages] " Theodore Tso
2007-07-09 22:12 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-10 16:50 ` Rob Landley
2007-06-13 18:23 ` [RFC/PATCH] Documentation of kernel messages David Miller
2007-06-13 18:27 ` holzheu
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-19 18:06 [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer Tsugikazu Shibata
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