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From: "Dr. Keith G. Bowden" <k.bowden@physics.bbk.ac.uk>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, "Li Yang" <leo@zh-kernel.org>
Cc: "Rob Landley" <rob@landley.net>,
	"Gerrit Huizenga" <gh@us.ibm.com>,
	"Kunai, Takashi" <kunai@linux-foundation.jp>,
	<holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<lf_kernel_messages@linux-foundation.org>, <mtk-manpages@gmx.net>,
	<jack@suse.cz>, <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>, <gregkh@suse.de>,
	<pavel@ucw.cz>, <tim.bird@am.sony.com>, <arjan@infradead.org>,
	<sam@ravnborg.org>, <jengelh@computergmbh.de>, <joe@perches.com>,
	<auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com>, <hansendc@us.ibm.com>,
	<davem@davemloft.net>, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>,
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	<heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>, <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:17:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00a701c7c78a$2478cfa0$8700a8c0@btlooksmart.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 469A6370.4020404@zytor.com

What I would like to see is the Americans learning English as a FIRST
language.

Keith (England)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: "Li Yang" <leo@zh-kernel.org>
Cc: "Rob Landley" <rob@landley.net>; "Gerrit Huizenga" <gh@us.ibm.com>;
"Kunai, Takashi" <kunai@linux-foundation.jp>; <holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>;
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>; <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>;
<lf_kernel_messages@linux-foundation.org>; <mtk-manpages@gmx.net>;
<jack@suse.cz>; <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>; <gregkh@suse.de>; <pavel@ucw.cz>;
<tim.bird@am.sony.com>; <arjan@infradead.org>; <sam@ravnborg.org>;
<jengelh@computergmbh.de>; <joe@perches.com>; <auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com>;
<hansendc@us.ibm.com>; <davem@davemloft.net>; <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>;
<kenistoj@us.ibm.com>; <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>;
<heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>; <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer


> Li Yang wrote:
> >
> > I think you worried too much about this problem.  :)  Let me explain
> > the situation here in China more clearly.  Actually, English is
> > mandatory in most schools and universities.  Only very few people
> > learn other language as a second language.  Therefore software
> > developers who are almost educated should have the basic English
> > skill.  However, that doesn't mean that they can read English or
> > communicate with native English speaker very easily.  Consider your
> > second language learn in school for analogy.
>
> Actually, I disagree.  English *is* the second language learned in
> school for most European developers (except, obviously, the ones from
> the British isles), and we don't have that problem.
>
> > Read in English will be much slower and more likely to cause
> > misunderstanding.  This will
> > reduce the likelihood greatly of English documentation being read.  If
> > we are promoting contribution to the Linux community, we should
> > maximum the possibility that these key documents being read.
> > Translation will serve this purpose very well.
>
> What we have found in Europe, is that that it has limited value, and
> that the closer to the core you are, the less value it is, because at
> that stage you should be communicating more with other developers.
> Putting yourself behind a wall of translation is unfortunately a
> detriment in that way.
>
> -hpa
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-16  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-13 15:06 [RFC/PATCH] Documentation of kernel messages holzheu
2007-06-13 16:37 ` Dave Hansen
2007-06-13 17:11   ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-13 17:42   ` holzheu
2007-06-13 16:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-06-13 18:09   ` Rob Landley
2007-06-13 18:11   ` holzheu
2007-06-14  8:47     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-06-15  8:49   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-13 17:16 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-06-13 17:46   ` holzheu
2007-06-13 17:51 ` Greg KH
2007-06-13 18:18   ` holzheu
2007-06-13 18:32     ` Greg KH
2007-06-13 18:49       ` Dave Hansen
2007-06-13 18:49       ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-14  8:17       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-06-13 19:04     ` Joe Perches
2007-06-14  2:54       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-06-14  7:05         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-15  8:51       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-13 18:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-14  8:31   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-06-14  9:41   ` Jan Kara
2007-06-14 10:38     ` holzheu
2007-06-14 11:47       ` holzheu
2007-06-14 12:26         ` Jan Kara
2007-06-14 15:22           ` holzheu
2007-06-15 18:42       ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 18:51         ` Randy Dunlap
2007-06-15 19:27           ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 20:01           ` Greg KH
2007-06-18 12:55         ` holzheu
2007-06-18 13:12           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-18 13:33             ` Jan Kara
2007-06-18 13:53             ` holzheu
2007-06-19  1:36               ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-19  8:51                 ` holzheu
2007-06-19 19:24                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-19 11:31                 ` holzheu
2007-06-19  5:41           ` [Lf_kernel_messages] " Kunai, Takashi
2007-06-18 13:11         ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-18 15:35           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-06-19  0:13         ` Tim Bird
2007-06-19  3:52           ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 12:40     ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-18 13:42       ` holzheu
2007-06-18 14:02         ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 13:48   ` Documentation of kernel messages (Summary) Michael Holzheu
2007-06-25 15:44     ` Rob Landley
2007-06-25 18:05       ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-27 15:11       ` Michael Holzheu
2007-07-09  5:15         ` Kunai, Takashi
2007-07-09  5:36           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-09 16:48             ` Rob Landley
2007-07-09 17:18               ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-07-10 16:12                 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 12:15                   ` Michael Holzheu
2007-07-11 14:26                   ` Li Yang
2007-07-11 18:13                     ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 21:32                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-13 10:53                         ` Alan Cox
2007-07-13 12:49                           ` Li Yang
2007-07-13 13:43                             ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-13 13:25                           ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-13 21:10                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-13 18:05                           ` Rob Landley
2007-07-14  3:54                             ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-15  1:56                               ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 16:28                                 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-16 19:53                                   ` Rob Landley
2007-08-03 18:11                                     ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-03 19:32                                       ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04  3:50                                         ` Greg KH
2007-08-04 19:02                                           ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04  3:52                                         ` Greg KH
2007-08-04 18:54                                           ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04 20:04                                             ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-06 15:50                                               ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 21:53                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-12 16:56                         ` Rob Landley
2007-07-12 13:53                       ` Li Yang-r58472
2007-07-12 16:05                         ` [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer Rob Landley
2007-07-12 19:52                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-07-12 20:02                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-13  7:42                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-07-13 16:06                             ` Rob Landley
2007-07-13 12:43                           ` Li Yang
2007-07-13 17:52                             ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 14:42                               ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 18:12                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-15 18:50                                   ` Alan Cox
2007-07-15 19:11                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-15 20:25                                       ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-16  4:40                                     ` Ganesan Rajagopal
2007-07-16 21:43                                       ` Alan Cox
2007-07-17  7:19                                         ` Ganesan Rajagopal
2007-07-15 18:53                                   ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 20:25                                   ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16  9:17                                   ` Dr. Keith G. Bowden [this message]
2007-07-16  2:49                                 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-16  3:03                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-17 16:24                                   ` Li Yang
2007-07-17 21:06                                     ` Rob Landley
2007-07-12 16:41                         ` Documentation of kernel messages (Summary) Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-12 17:35                         ` Rob Landley
2007-07-13  2:54                           ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-13 17:12                             ` Rob Landley
2007-07-14  1:46                               ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-15  2:12                                 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 16:46                                   ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-17 16:06                                     ` Rob Landley
2007-07-17 23:30                                       ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-13 11:54                           ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 20:30                             ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-09 18:33               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-10 16:25                 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-10 18:54                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-10 19:53                     ` Rob Landley
2007-07-17  0:31                   ` Tim Bird
2007-07-17  1:17                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-17 16:42                       ` Rob Landley
2007-07-17 16:29                     ` Rob Landley
2007-07-10  7:59               ` Li Yang-r58472
2007-07-10  6:38             ` Dave Young
2007-07-09  7:01           ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 22:59             ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-10  6:15               ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 18:10       ` [Lf_kernel_messages] " Theodore Tso
2007-07-09 22:12         ` Alan Cox
2007-07-10 16:50         ` Rob Landley
2007-06-13 18:23 ` [RFC/PATCH] Documentation of kernel messages David Miller
2007-06-13 18:27   ` holzheu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-19 18:06 [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer Tsugikazu Shibata

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