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From: "Norman Diamond" <ndiamond@wta.att.ne.jp>
To: "Hans Reiser" <reiser@namesys.com>,
	"Wes Janzen" <superchkn@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "Rogier Wolff" <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>,
	"John Bradford" <john@grabjohn.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <nikita@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: Why are bad disk sectors numbered strangely, and what happens to them?
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:23:37 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00ed01c39306$b0277a90$3eee4ca5@DIAMONDLX60> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3F8BBC08.6030901@namesys.com

Hans Reiser wrote:

> I think the problem is that many users don't know how to trigger the bad
> sector remapping for the case where the drive can still remap, using
> writes to the bad blocks, and probably our faq needs updating.

This is indeed one of the problems[*].  The other problem is that it seems
to be absurdly difficult to find which file contains the bad sector.  Even
though a file could have multiple hard links, it would be enough to get one
pathname for the file, in order to know which file needs to be reconstructed
from a source of good data.

[* Of course I also wish that the original failing write had been detected
by the drive, but this failure isn't software's fault.  I hope.]


  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-15 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-13  9:31 Why are bad disk sectors numbered strangely, and what happens to them? Norman Diamond
     [not found] ` <200310131014.h9DAEwY3000241@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk>
2003-10-13 10:24   ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-13 10:33     ` John Bradford
2003-10-13 11:30       ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-13 11:58         ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-10-15 10:22           ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-13 12:02         ` John Bradford
2003-10-15 10:23           ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-15 18:56             ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-14  6:54         ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-13 14:24     ` Chuck Campbell
2003-10-13 14:54       ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-10-13 16:29         ` Roger Larsson
2003-10-14  6:49     ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-14  7:05       ` Wes Janzen
2003-10-14  7:21         ` John Bradford
2003-10-14  7:40           ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-14  8:11             ` John Bradford
2003-10-14  8:45               ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-14  9:46                 ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-14  9:57                   ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-14 10:10                     ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-14 10:31                       ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-14 10:19                 ` John Bradford
     [not found]             ` <200310140800.h9E80BT9000815@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk>
     [not found]               ` <20031014081110.GA14418@bitwizard.nl>
2003-10-14  8:55                 ` Wes Janzen
2003-10-14 10:05                   ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-14  7:24         ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-14  9:04         ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-15 10:23           ` Norman Diamond [this message]
2003-10-15 10:39             ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-17  9:40           ` Blockbusting news, this is important (Re: Why are bad disk sectors numbered strangely, and what happens to them?) Norman Diamond
2003-10-17  9:48             ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-17 11:11               ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-17 11:45                 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-17 11:51                 ` John Bradford
2003-10-17 12:53                 ` John Bradford
2003-10-17 13:03                   ` Russell King
2003-10-17 13:26                     ` John Bradford
2003-10-19  7:50                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-17 13:04                 ` Russell King
2003-10-17 14:09                   ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-17  9:58             ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-17 10:15               ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-17 10:24             ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-17 10:49               ` John Bradford
2003-10-17 11:09                 ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-17 11:24                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2003-10-17 19:35                   ` John Bradford
2003-10-17 23:28                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2003-10-18  7:42                       ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-18  8:30                         ` John Bradford
2003-10-21 20:26                           ` bill davidsen
2003-10-18  8:27                       ` John Bradford
2003-10-18 12:02                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2003-10-18 16:26                           ` Nuno Silva
2003-10-18 20:16                             ` Krzysztof Halasa
     [not found]                     ` <m37k33igui.fsf@defiant. <m3u166vjn0.fsf@defiant.pm.waw.pl>
2003-10-21 20:39                       ` bill davidsen
2003-10-17 10:37             ` ATA Defect management John Bradford
2003-10-21 20:44               ` bill davidsen
2003-10-17 12:08             ` Blockbusting news, this is important (Re: Why are bad disk sectors numbered strangely, and what happens to them?) Justin Cormack
2003-10-21 20:12             ` bill davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-12  8:25 Why are bad disk sectors numbered strangely, and what happens to them? Norman Diamond
2003-10-11  9:00 Norman Diamond
2003-10-11  9:39 ` Andreas Jellinghaus

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