From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 30 May 2001 23:12:05 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 30 May 2001 23:11:55 -0400 Received: from cx595243-c.okc1.ok.home.com ([24.6.27.53]:4230 "EHLO quark.localdomain") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 30 May 2001 23:11:50 -0400 From: Vincent Stemen Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:11:00 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Cc: Mike Galbraith , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org To: Rik van Riel , Vincent Stemen In-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Plain 2.4.5 VM... (and 2.4.5-ac3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01053022110000.02370@quark> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wednesday 30 May 2001 15:30, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2001, Vincent Stemen wrote: > > The problem is, that's not true. These problems are not slipping > > through because of lack of testers. As Alan said, the VM problem has > > been lurking, which means that it was known already. > > Fully agreed, it went through because of a lack of hours > per day and the fact that the priority of developers was > elsewhere. > > For me, for example, the priorities have mostly been with > bugs that bothered me or that bothered Conectiva's customers. > > If you _really_ feel this strongly about the bug, you could > either try to increase the number of hours a day for all of I sure wish I could :-). > us or you could talk to my boss about hiring me as a consultant > to fix the problem for you on an emergency basis :) > The other two alternatives would be either waiting until > somebody gets around to fixing the bug or sending in a patch > yourself. > > Trying to piss off developers has adverse effect on all four > of the methods above :) > Why should my comments piss anybody off? I am just trying to point out a problem, as I see it, an offer suggestions for improvement. Other developers will either agree with me or they wont. Contributions are not made only through writing code. I contribute through code, bug reports, ideas, and suggestions. I would love to dive in and try to help fix some of the kernel problems but my hands are just to full right now. My comments are not meant to rush anybody and I am not criticizing how long it is taking. I know everybody is doing everything they can just like I am, and they are doing a terrific job. I am just suggesting a modification to the way the kernels are distributed that is more like the early versions that I hoped would allow us to maintain a stable kernel for distributions and production machines. - Vincent Stemen