From: Mark Salisbury <mbs@mc.com>
To: "Dr S.M. Huen" <smh1008@cus.cam.ac.uk>,
"Dr S.M. Huen" <smh1008@cus.cam.ac.uk>, Kurt Roeckx <Q@ping.be>
Cc: Sean Hunter <sean@dev.sportingbet.com>,
Xavier Bestel <xavier.bestel@free.fr>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:40:41 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0106061450480H.00684@pc-eng24.mc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.96.1010606184337.19288A-100000@virgo.cus.cam.ac.uk>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.96.1010606184337.19288A-100000@virgo.cus.cam.ac.uk>
On Wed, 06 Jun 2001, Dr S.M. Huen wrote:
> The whole screaming match is about whether a drastic degradation on using
> swap with less than the 2*RAM swap specified by the developers should lead
> one to conclude that a kernel is "broken".
I would argue that any system that performs substantially worse with swap==1xRAM
than a system with swap==0xRAM is fundamentally broken. it seems that w/
todays 2.4.x kernel, people running programs totalling LESS THAN their physical
dram are having swap problems. they should not even be using 1 byte of swap.
the whole point of swapping pages is to give you more memory to execute
programs.
if I want to execute 140MB of programs+kernel on a system with 128 MB of ram,
I should be able to do the job effectively with ANY amount of "total memory"
exceeding 140MB. not some hokey 128MB RAM + 256MB swap just because the kernel
it too fscked up to deal with a small swap file.
--
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** Mark Salisbury | Mercury Computer Systems **
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-06-06 18:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-06-05 22:19 Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps Derek Glidden
2001-06-05 23:38 ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-06-06 1:42 ` Russell Leighton
2001-06-06 7:14 ` Sean Hunter
2001-06-06 7:47 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-06 2:16 ` Andrew Morton
2001-06-06 3:19 ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 8:19 ` Xavier Bestel
2001-06-06 8:54 ` Sean Hunter
2001-06-06 9:16 ` Xavier Bestel
2001-06-06 9:25 ` Sean Hunter
2001-06-06 10:04 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-06 9:57 ` Dr S.M. Huen
2001-06-06 10:06 ` DBs (ML)
2001-06-06 10:08 ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2001-06-06 10:19 ` Lauri Tischler
2001-06-06 10:22 ` Sean Hunter
2001-06-06 10:48 ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-06 16:58 ` dean gaudet
2001-06-06 17:10 ` Remi Turk
2001-06-06 22:44 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-06-09 7:17 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-06 16:47 ` dean gaudet
2001-06-06 17:17 ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-06-06 18:35 ` Dr S.M. Huen
2001-06-06 18:40 ` Mark Salisbury [this message]
2001-06-06 19:11 ` android
2001-06-07 0:27 ` Mike A. Harris
2001-06-07 0:20 ` Mike A. Harris
2001-06-09 8:16 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-09 8:57 ` Mike A. Harris
2001-06-07 21:31 ` Shane Nay
2001-06-07 20:00 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-07 21:55 ` Shane Nay
2001-06-07 20:29 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-07 23:29 ` VM Report was:Re: " Shane Nay
2001-06-08 1:18 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-08 12:50 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-08 14:19 ` Tobias Ringstrom
2001-06-08 15:51 ` John Stoffel
2001-06-08 17:01 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-08 17:43 ` John Stoffel
2001-06-08 17:35 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-08 20:58 ` John Stoffel
2001-06-08 20:04 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-08 23:44 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-09 2:36 ` Andrew Morton
2001-06-09 6:33 ` Mark Hahn
2001-06-09 3:43 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-09 4:05 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-09 5:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-09 5:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-08 18:30 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-09 12:31 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-06-09 3:34 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-08 16:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-08 19:09 ` Tobias Ringstrom
2001-06-09 4:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-06 11:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-06 15:28 ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-06 15:42 ` Christian Bornträger
2001-06-06 15:57 ` Requirement: swap = RAM x 2.5 ?? Jeff Garzik
2001-06-06 16:12 ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-06 16:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-06-06 16:19 ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-06 16:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-06 17:05 ` Greg Hennessy
2001-06-06 18:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07 1:29 ` Jan Harkes
2001-06-06 17:14 ` Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps Ben Greear
2001-06-06 12:07 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-06 13:58 ` Gerhard Mack
2001-06-08 4:56 ` C. Martins
2001-06-06 14:41 ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 20:29 ` José Luis Domingo López
2001-06-06 14:16 ` Disconnect
[not found] ` <3B1DEAC7.43DEFA1C@idb.hist.no>
2001-06-06 14:51 ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 21:34 ` Alan Cox
2001-06-09 8:07 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-07 7:23 ` Helge Hafting
2001-06-07 16:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07 20:24 ` José Luis Domingo López
2001-06-06 4:03 ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-06-06 13:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-06 14:41 ` Marc Heckmann
2001-06-06 14:51 ` Hugh Dickins
2001-06-06 13:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-06 16:48 ` Jeffrey W. Baker
[not found] ` <m2lmn61ceb.fsf@sympatico.ca>
2001-06-06 14:37 ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-07 0:34 ` Mike A. Harris
2001-06-07 3:13 ` Miles Lane
2001-06-07 15:49 ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-07 19:06 ` Miles Lane
2001-06-09 5:57 ` Mike A. Harris
2001-06-06 18:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-06 19:39 ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 20:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-07 7:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07 8:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-07 8:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-06 21:39 ` android
2001-06-06 22:08 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-06 22:27 ` android
2001-06-06 22:33 ` Antoine
2001-06-06 22:38 ` Robert Love
2001-06-06 22:40 ` Jonathan Morton
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-06-06 15:31 Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 15:46 ` John Alvord
2001-06-06 15:58 ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 18:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-06 18:47 ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 18:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-06 19:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-06 19:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07 4:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-07 6:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07 7:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-07 7:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07 8:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-07 17:10 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-06 19:28 ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-09 7:55 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-06 20:43 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-06 21:57 ` LA Walsh
2001-06-07 6:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07 15:25 ` LA Walsh
2001-06-07 16:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07 20:47 ` LA Walsh
2001-06-08 19:38 ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-09 7:34 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-06 21:30 ` Alan Cox
2001-06-06 21:57 ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-09 8:09 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-07 10:46 Bernd Jendrissek
[not found] ` <20010607153835.T14203@jessica>
2001-06-08 7:37 ` Bernd Jendrissek
2001-06-08 19:32 ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-11 12:06 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2001-06-11 19:04 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-12 7:46 ` Bernd Jendrissek
2001-06-07 14:22 Bulent Abali
2001-06-07 15:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-10 22:04 Rob Landley
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