From: "Rok Papež" <rok.papez@kiss.uni-lj.si>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:36:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01062021360901.02282@strader.home> (raw)
Hi!
It's hard not to reply to this kind of message but there is so much
"anti-thread hype" here that someone obviously has to stand up to it.
This reply isn't aimed just at Larry but at all the anti-thread-rant
people with 0 threads == 0 problems attitude.
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 18:09, Larry McVoy wrote:
> "If you think you need threads then your processes are too fat"
> ``Think of it this way: threads are like salt, not like pasta. You
> like salt, I like salt, we all like salt. But we eat more pasta.''
Here are more from the same basket you obviously got the first quote from:
------------------------------------
Virtual memory is only for unskilled programmers who don't know how to use
overlays.
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Protected memory is a constant 10% CPU hog needed only by undisciplined
programmers who can't keep their memory writes in their own process space.
------------------------------------
> Threads are a really bad idea.
I could *say* the same about Alans co-routines and Async IO :-). But it
would be foolish of me to criticize something I haven't used.
There is more than one way how to skin a dinosaur. And threads are one
way of doing it. You don't like it ? FINE. But don't go bashing it.
Probably most people bash threads becouse of a silly way POSIX designed
(designed is an overstatement) their pthread API and becouse UNIX was
around before threads thus probably making every UNIX thread support a
hacked and not a designed tool.
Other OSes have certainly proven threads to be nice and usable.
And here is another one for you quotes page:
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If you can't stick your head out of your own backyard please... don't
go and crtiticize the world... :-)
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--
best regards,
Rok Papež.
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2001-06-20 19:36 Rok Papež [this message]
2001-06-20 20:16 ` Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) Cort Dougan
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2001-06-30 9:16 Jan Hudec
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2001-06-22 7:33 ` Andi Kleen
2001-06-22 5:19 Chester Lott
2001-06-19 19:48 Joerg Pommnitz
2001-06-19 19:59 ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-19 15:44 accounting for threads ognen
2001-06-19 15:58 ` Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) Dan Kegel
2001-06-19 16:02 ` David S. Miller
2001-06-19 16:12 ` Padraig Brady
2001-06-19 19:10 ` bert hubert
2001-06-19 19:18 ` Alan Cox
2001-06-19 19:32 ` bert hubert
2001-06-19 19:43 ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-20 15:22 ` Jes Sorensen
2001-06-20 15:33 ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-20 16:39 ` george anzinger
2001-06-20 18:35 ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-21 4:11 ` Rusty Russell
2001-06-21 23:37 ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-21 23:55 ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-22 14:53 ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-20 16:40 ` Jes Sorensen
2001-06-20 20:09 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 19:05 ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-06-20 14:35 ` Mike Porter
2001-06-20 11:56 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-19 16:02 ` Ben Pfaff
2001-06-19 16:09 ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 16:26 ` Matthew Kirkwood
2001-06-19 16:52 ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 18:18 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-19 23:31 ` Timur Tabi
2001-06-20 11:52 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 21:20 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-06-20 18:12 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 23:28 ` Dan Podeanu
2001-06-21 0:42 ` D. Stimits
2001-06-20 20:18 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-21 1:57 ` D. Stimits
2001-06-21 14:02 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-06-21 14:18 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-22 14:46 ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-06-22 13:29 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-24 21:41 ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-24 16:55 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-24 22:30 ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-24 18:21 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-25 13:48 ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-24 22:39 ` Steven Walter
2001-06-24 23:50 ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-24 20:24 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-25 0:05 ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-25 0:32 ` Gerhard Mack
2001-06-25 0:59 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-25 2:18 ` Galen Hancock
2001-06-20 14:59 ` Matthias Urlichs
2001-06-20 19:14 ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-06-19 17:10 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-06-19 17:20 ` Mike Castle
2001-06-19 17:37 ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 17:45 ` Mike Castle
2001-06-19 18:08 ` Georg Nikodym
2001-06-19 19:38 ` Georg Nikodym
2001-06-19 19:56 ` Michael Meissner
2001-06-19 17:53 ` Steve Underwood
2001-06-19 19:01 ` Alan Cox
2001-06-20 2:57 ` Michael Rothwell
2001-06-20 3:04 ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-20 3:38 ` John R Lenton
2001-06-20 10:21 ` john slee
2001-06-20 18:08 ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-20 16:21 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-20 9:14 ` Alan Cox
2001-06-22 2:36 ` Michael Rothwell
2001-06-19 17:36 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-06-19 17:41 ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 20:57 ` David S. Miller
2001-06-19 21:11 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-06-19 21:15 ` David S. Miller
2001-06-19 23:56 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-06-20 0:19 ` Mike Castle
2001-06-20 0:28 ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-20 1:30 ` Ben Greear
2001-06-20 2:14 ` Mike Castle
2001-06-20 9:00 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-20 0:04 ` Chris Ricker
2001-06-20 0:59 ` Robert Love
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