From: Rob Landley <landley@webofficenow.com>
To: hps@intermeta.de,
"Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <mailgate@hometree.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:25:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01062112251509.00845@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <993069751.10191.0.camel@agate> <20010620153345.I3089@work.bitmover.com> <9gsbnj$kqc$1@forge.intermeta.de>
In-Reply-To: <9gsbnj$kqc$1@forge.intermeta.de>
On Thursday 21 June 2001 04:37, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote:
>
> Devils' advocate position: If Linux would not be under GPL but under
> BSD license, M$ may have already done so. But consider them porting
> one of their monster applications and release it just to find out that
> they've linked to GNU readline somewhere because of an QM oversight.
I said as much in an article to LinuxToday. (They buried it under a page of
commentary about Ransom Love, but they did post it.)
http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-05-10-002-20-PS
BSD forked to death in the 80's. Everybody from AT&T to Sun to IBM who saw
money in it spun off their own incompatable, proprietary version.
If MS was currently facing BSD rather than LInux, they would have "embrace
and extend"ed it long ago. Hide half of office in the system libraries (just
like windows), come out with a closed-source version, loot the open
competition for any advances but don't share yours...
> I'd guess, to them, the risk of having their core code base (their
> source of revenue) "infected by the GNU virus" is just too high.
The GPL was designed to block embrace and extend. It embraces and extends
right back. And it's torquing microsoft off big time.
> Hmmm. After all, they're already using FreeBSD. Maybe they will
> release "Windows for FreeBSD" with Office. Now that would be an
> interesting impact on Linux (I would be over there in seconds =:-) )
Just like AT&T did to free Unix in ~1984. How long before it's "Office for
BSD incidentally distributed with a closed-source copy of BSD" mutated into
"yet another incompatable proprietary operating system, just with lots of
unix code."
That wouldn't solve anything. We've been through a few years with netscape
as our only viable web browser on linux, how much fun was that?
Rember the ben franklin quote about exchanging liberty for safety. Buying
short-term gains with long-term sacrifices is a dumb idea. Been there. Done
that. Came here to recover.
> Regards
> Henning
Rob
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-06-21 21:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-06-20 20:42 The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself Miles Lane
2001-06-20 21:33 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-20 22:31 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-20 19:53 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-21 8:50 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-21 16:41 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 22:09 ` Alan Cox
2001-06-20 22:33 ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-20 22:51 ` Alan Cox
2001-06-20 23:02 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-20 23:04 ` William T Wilson
2001-06-20 23:07 ` Khalid Aziz
2001-06-21 8:46 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-21 13:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-21 17:32 ` Miles Lane
2001-06-20 23:16 ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-20 23:20 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-21 0:46 ` Michael Bacarella
2001-06-21 14:20 ` chuckw
2001-06-21 8:37 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-21 16:25 ` Rob Landley [this message]
2001-06-21 22:37 ` Michael Bacarella
2001-06-21 22:49 ` Alan Cox
2001-06-22 11:08 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-22 18:33 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-06-28 22:33 ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-21 12:57 ` Helge Hafting
2001-06-20 23:34 ` Alan Olsen
2001-06-21 10:07 ` Paul Flinders
2001-06-21 12:57 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-21 14:01 ` Alan Cox
2001-06-23 16:29 ` watermodem
2001-06-20 22:28 ` IP_ALIAS in 2.4.x gone? Alan Olsen
2001-06-20 23:12 ` Alan Olsen
2001-06-20 23:59 ` Erik Schoenfelder
2001-06-22 10:47 ` problem with select() - 2.4.5 Thomas Speck
2001-06-22 19:53 ` Thomas Speck
2001-06-23 0:36 ` Edgar Toernig
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-06-20 22:53 The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself Wayne.Brown
2001-06-21 7:59 ` Daniel Stone
2001-06-21 13:00 Jesse Pollard
2001-06-28 22:02 ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-29 19:41 ` Lew Wolfgang
2001-06-30 1:10 ` David Schwartz
2001-06-30 1:45 ` Lew Wolfgang
2001-06-30 2:50 ` David Schwartz
2001-06-30 7:24 ` Lionel Elie Mamane
2001-06-30 14:22 ` Dmitri Pogosyan
[not found] <51FCCCF0C130D211BE550008C724149E01165690@mail1.affiliatedhealth.org>
2001-06-21 18:21 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-25 18:05 ` Andreas Bombe
2001-06-26 11:46 ` john slee
2001-06-28 22:27 ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-29 20:02 ` Paul Fulghum
2001-06-22 12:36 Holzrichter, Bruce
2001-06-29 19:11 Clayton, Mark
2001-06-29 18:05 ` Rob Landley
[not found] <87009604743AD411B1F600508BA0F95994C8DF@XOVER.dedham.mindsp eed.com>
2001-06-29 19:47 ` Android
[not found] <fa.hs4no6v.h0k6ok@ifi.uio.no>
2001-06-30 15:38 ` Ted Unangst
2001-07-02 5:14 ` Greg Rollins
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