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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	Anuradha Ratnaweera <anuradha@gnu.org>
Cc: "Tom Sightler <ttsig@tuxyturvy.com> Mike Galbraith"
	<mikeg@wen-online.de>, Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>,
	John Stoffel <stoffel@casc.com>,
	Roger Larsson <roger.larsson@norran.net>,
	thunder7@xs4all.nl, Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Early flush (was: spindown)
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:21:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01062418211506.00430@starship> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0106241205190.7419-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0106241205190.7419-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva>

On Sunday 24 June 2001 17:06, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Anuradha Ratnaweera wrote:
> > It is not uncommon to have a large number of tmp files on the disk(s)
> > (Rik also pointed this out somewhere early in the original thread) and
> > it is sensible to keep all of them in buffers if RAM is sufficient.
> > Transfering _very_ large files is not _that_ common so why shouldn't
> > that case be handled from the user space by calling sync(2)?
>
> Wait a moment.
>
> The only observed bad case I've heard about here is
> that of large files being written out.

But that's not the only advantage of doing the early update:

  - Early spindown for laptops
  - Improved latency under some conditions
  - Improved throughput for some loads
  - Improved filesystem safety

> It should be easy enough to just trigger writeout of
> pages of an inode once that inode has more than a
> certain amount of dirty pages in RAM ... say, something
> like freepages.high ?

The inode dirty page list is not sorted by "time dirtied" so you would be 
eroding the system's ability to ensure that dirty file buffers never get 
older than X.

--
Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2001-06-24 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-13 19:31 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior Tom Sightler
2001-06-13 20:21 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-14  1:49   ` Tom Sightler
2001-06-14  3:16     ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-14  7:59       ` Laramie Leavitt
2001-06-14  9:24         ` Helge Hafting
2001-06-14 17:38           ` Mark Hahn
2001-06-15  8:27             ` Helge Hafting
2001-06-14  8:47       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-14 15:10         ` John Stoffel
2001-06-14 18:25           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-14 20:23         ` Roger Larsson
2001-06-14 20:39           ` John Stoffel
2001-06-14 20:51             ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-14 21:33               ` John Stoffel
2001-06-14 22:23                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-15 15:23             ` spindown [was Re: 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior] Pavel Machek
2001-06-16 20:50               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-16 21:06                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-16 21:25                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-16 21:44                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-16 21:54                     ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-17 10:28                       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-17 10:05                     ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-17 12:49                       ` (lkml)Re: " thunder7
2001-06-17 16:40                         ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-18 14:22                       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-19  4:35                         ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-20  1:50                         ` [RFC] Early flush (was: spindown) Daniel Phillips
2001-06-20  4:39                           ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-20 14:29                             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-20 16:12                               ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-22 23:25                                 ` Daniel Kobras
2001-06-23  5:10                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-25 11:33                                     ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-25 11:31                                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-20 20:58                           ` Tom Sightler
2001-06-20 22:09                             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-24  3:20                             ` Anuradha Ratnaweera
2001-06-24 11:14                               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-24 15:06                               ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-24 16:21                                 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2001-06-18 20:21               ` spindown Simon Huggins
2001-06-19 10:46                 ` spindown Pavel Machek
2001-06-20 16:52                   ` spindown Daniel Phillips
2001-06-20 17:32                     ` spindown Rik van Riel
2001-06-20 18:00                       ` spindown Daniel Phillips
2001-06-21 16:07                   ` spindown Jamie Lokier
2001-06-22 22:09                     ` spindown Daniel Kobras
2001-06-28  0:27                     ` spindown Troy Benjegerdes
2001-06-15  6:04           ` 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior Mike Galbraith
2001-06-14  8:30   ` Mike Galbraith

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