From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>, "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@scsiguy.com>
Cc: "Jonathan Lundell <jlundell@pobox.com> Alan Cox"
<alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolinux.com>,
"Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>,
Ben LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>,
Ragnar Kjxrstad <kernel@ragnark.vestdata.no>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
mike@bigstorage.com, kevin@bigstorage.com, linux-lvm@sistina.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 64 bit scsi read/write
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:19:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01071615193905.06482@starship> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200107151747.f6FHlAU60256@aslan.scsiguy.com> <20010716205633.G11938@weta.f00f.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010716205633.G11938@weta.f00f.org>
On Monday 16 July 2001 10:56, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 11:47:10AM -0600, Justin T. Gibbs wrote:
>
> Simply disabling the write cache does not guarantee the order of
> writes. For one, with tagged I/O and the use of the SIMPLE_Q tag
> qualifier, commands may be completed in any order. If you want
> some semblance of order, either disable the write cache or use
> the FUA bit in all writes, and use the ORDERED tag qualifier. Even
> when using these options, it is not clear that the drive cannot
> reorder writes "slightly" to make track writes more efficient (e.g.
> two separate commands to write sequential sectors on the same track
> may be written in reverse order).
>
> ORDERED sounds like the trick... I assume this is some kind of
> write-barrier? If so, then I assume it has some kind of strict
> temporal ordering, even between command issues to the drive.
>
> If so, that would be idea if we can have the fs communicate this all
> the way down to the device layer, making it work for soft-raid and
> LVM be a little harder perhaps.
There was general agreement amongst filesystem developers at San Jose
that we need some kind of internal interface at the filesystem level
for this, independent of the type of underlying block device - IDE,
SCSI or "other". That's as far as it got.
--
Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-07-16 13:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-07-01 4:53 [RFC][PATCH] first cut 64 bit block support Ben LaHaise
2001-07-03 4:53 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-07-04 2:19 ` [PATCH] 64 bit scsi read/write Ben LaHaise
2001-07-04 7:11 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-05 6:34 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-07-05 7:35 ` Ben LaHaise
2001-07-13 18:20 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-13 20:41 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-13 21:07 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-13 22:04 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-14 0:49 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-14 12:27 ` Paul Jakma
2001-07-14 14:48 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-14 15:42 ` Paul Jakma
2001-07-14 17:18 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-20 17:03 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-07-16 18:53 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-16 19:13 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-07-13 21:14 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-14 3:23 ` Andrew Morton
2001-07-14 8:45 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-14 14:50 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-14 15:41 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-14 17:00 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-14 20:11 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-15 1:21 ` Andrew Morton
2001-07-15 1:53 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-15 3:36 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 6:05 ` John Alvord
2001-07-15 6:07 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 13:16 ` Ken Hirsch
2001-07-15 14:50 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 22:14 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-17 0:31 ` Juan Quintela
2001-07-15 13:44 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-15 14:39 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 15:06 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-15 15:22 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 17:44 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-15 17:47 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2001-07-15 23:14 ` Rod Van Meter
2001-07-16 0:37 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-16 15:11 ` Rod Van Meter
2001-07-16 8:56 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-16 13:19 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2001-07-15 15:32 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-15 15:33 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 16:24 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-16 1:08 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-16 8:49 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-21 19:18 ` Alexander Griesser
2001-07-22 3:52 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-23 14:41 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-24 4:29 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-24 11:45 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-14 17:33 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-15 4:02 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 5:46 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-15 17:10 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 17:39 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-26 2:18 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-07-26 16:24 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-08-10 19:42 ` Ben LaHaise
2001-08-10 19:51 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-08-10 20:02 ` Ben LaHaise
2001-08-11 0:18 ` Steve Lord
2001-08-11 21:44 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-07-04 10:16 ` [RFC][PATCH] first cut 64 bit block support Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-04 16:59 ` Ben LaHaise
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-14 15:08 [PATCH] 64 bit scsi read/write Ed Tomlinson
2001-07-19 7:35 [PATCH] 64 bit SCSI read/write Andre Hedrick
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