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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>, Jussi Laako <jlaako@pp.htv.fi>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Stability of ReiserFS onj Kernel 2.4.x (sp. 2.4.[56]{-ac*}
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 00:28:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0107170028460E.06482@starship> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E15LopT-0004Cm-00@the-village.bc.nu> <3B53221B.28B8D5A1@pp.htv.fi> <3B533D98.B9D1074@namesys.com>
In-Reply-To: <3B533D98.B9D1074@namesys.com>

On Monday 16 July 2001 21:16, Hans Reiser wrote:
> Jussi Laako wrote:
> > Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > > We are not that far away from being able to handle 8K blocks, so
> > > that would bump it up to 32 TB.
> >
> > That's way too small. Something like 32 PB would be better... ;)
> > We need at least one extra bit in volume/file size every year.
>
> Daniel, if I was real sure that 64k blocks were the right answer, I
> would agree with you.  I think nobody knows what will happen with
> reiserfs if we go to 64k blocks.

For 32 bit block numbers:

    Logical Block Size	    Largest Volume
    ------------------	    --------------

	   4K			 16 TB
	   8K			 32 TB
	  16K			 64 TB
	  32K			128 TB
	  64K			256 TB    

You don't have to go to the extreme of 64K blocksize to get big 
volumes.  Anyway, with tailmerging there isn't really a downside to big 
blocks, assuming the tailmerging code is fairly mature and efficient.  
Maybe that's where we're still guessing?

> It could be great.  On the other
> hand, the average number of bytes memcopied with every small file
> insertion increases with node size.  Scalable integers (Xanadu
> project idea in which the last bit of an integer indicates whether
> the integer is longer than the base size by an amount equal to the
> base size, chain can be infinitely long, they used a base size of 1
> byte, but we could use a base size of 32 bits, and limit it to 64
> bits rather than allowing infinite scaling) seem like more
> conservative coding.

Yes, I've used similar things in the past, but only in serialized 
structures.  In a fixed sized field it doesn't make a lot of sense.

--
Daniel

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-07-16 22:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-14 23:54 Stability of ReiserFS onj Kernel 2.4.x (sp. 2.4.[56]{-ac*} Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-15  0:01 ` Thomas Zimmerman
2001-07-15 16:00 ` volodya
2001-07-15 16:08   ` Alexander Viro
2001-07-16  0:50     ` volodya
2001-07-16  0:54       ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-07-16  0:57       ` Alexander Viro
2001-07-16  1:22         ` volodya
2001-07-16  1:48           ` Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
2001-07-15 16:33   ` Alan Cox
2001-07-15 16:44     ` Hans Reiser
2001-07-15 16:46       ` Alan Cox
2001-07-15 17:54         ` Hans Reiser
2001-07-15 18:17           ` Alan Cox
2001-07-16 13:27         ` Marco Colombo
2001-07-15 17:58       ` Rob Turk
2001-07-15 21:30       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-15 22:05         ` Hans Reiser
2001-07-15 22:18           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-16  0:22         ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-16 12:49           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-17 19:40           ` Rob Landley
2001-07-16 17:19         ` Jussi Laako
2001-07-16 17:53           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-16 19:16           ` Hans Reiser
2001-07-16 21:00             ` Jussi Laako
2001-07-16 22:28             ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2001-07-18  0:58           ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-16  4:39   ` Mike A. Harris

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