From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ben LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>,
Mike Galbraith <mikeg@wen-online.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Optimization for use-once pages
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 00:41:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01072500411205.00520@starship> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0107241903410.20326-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0107241903410.20326-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva>
On Wednesday 25 July 2001 00:05, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > > Today's patch tackles the use-once problem, that is, the problem
> > > of
> >
> > Well, as I see the patch should remove the problem where
> > drop_behind() deactivates pages of a readahead window even if
> > some of those pages are not "used-once" pages, right ?
> >
> > I just want to make sure the performance improvements you're
> > seeing caused by the fix of this _particular_ problem.
>
> Fully agreed.
>
> Especially since it was a one-liner change from worse
> performance to better performance (IIRC) it would be
> nice to see exactly WHY the system behaves the way it
> does. ;)
Oh, it wasn't an accident, I knew what I was trying to achieve.
It's just that I didn't immediately understand all the curlicues in
the page life cycles just from staring at the code. I had to see
the machine moving first. It was very instructive to see what
happened on reverting to a fifo strategy. It might even be a good
idea to put a proc hook in there to allow on-the-fly dumbing down
of the lru machinery. That way we can measure system behaviour
against a baseline without having to go through the
compile-reboot-bench cycle every time, which eats a major amount
of time.
> Reading a bunch of 2Q, LRU/k, ... papers and thinking
> about the problem very carefully should help us a bit
> in this. Lots of researches have already looked into
> this particular problem in quite a lot of detail.
Yep, unfortunately the subject of memory management in operating
systems seems to have received a lot less attention than memory
management in databases.
--
Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-07-24 23:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-07-24 3:47 [RFC] Optimization for use-once pages Daniel Phillips
2001-07-24 12:38 ` jlnance
2001-07-24 16:56 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-25 0:04 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-25 0:43 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-07-25 1:30 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-25 21:18 ` Steve Lord
2001-07-24 16:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-24 17:04 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-24 18:14 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-24 18:15 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-24 19:41 ` Is /dev/epoll scheduled for official inclusion anytime soon? David E. Weekly
2001-07-24 20:05 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-24 20:26 ` linux partitioning in IA64 hiufungeric.tse
2001-07-25 9:29 ` Mike A. Harris
2001-07-24 20:24 ` [RFC] Optimization for use-once pages Patrick Dreker
2001-07-24 20:32 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-24 22:16 ` Patrick Dreker
2001-07-24 22:25 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-25 0:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-25 8:20 ` Patrick Dreker
2001-07-25 12:57 ` Martin Devera
2001-07-25 14:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-24 20:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-25 1:25 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-25 0:18 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-24 20:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-07-24 22:05 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-24 20:53 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-07-24 22:27 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-24 23:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-24 19:35 ` Rob Landley
2001-07-25 6:10 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-07-25 8:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-07-25 12:53 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-25 16:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-07-25 12:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-25 5:12 ` Andrew Morton
2001-07-25 6:33 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-07-30 18:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-07-24 22:41 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2001-07-24 22:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-25 2:31 ` Marcelo Tosatti
[not found] <010301c11463$1ee00440$294b82ce@connecttech.com>
2001-07-24 17:07 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-24 17:42 ` Stuart MacDonald
2001-07-24 17:51 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-24 18:09 ` Stuart MacDonald
2001-07-24 18:15 ` Mike Castle
2001-07-24 18:21 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-24 17:44 ` Mike Castle
2001-07-24 17:52 ` Rik van Riel
[not found] <0107251802300B.00907@starship>
2001-07-25 16:41 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-25 17:46 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-26 8:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-07-26 12:06 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-26 10:38 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-07-26 12:17 ` Daniel Phillips
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2001-07-26 3:27 Ed Tomlinson
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