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From: "Svenning Soerensen" <svenning@post5.tele.dk>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-ipsec@freeswan.org>
Subject: RE: Problem with PMTU discovery on ICMP packets
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 16:23:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <015401c0d56e$ee293250$1400a8c0@sss.intermate.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15091.59308.315685.312632@pizda.ninka.net>

> From: David S. Miller [mailto:davem@redhat.com]

> I want to understand why on some boots it's on while on some
> boots it is off, that makes no sense.
> 
> Before the piece of code you patched, we call ops->create() which is
> inet_create in net/ipv4/af_inet.c, there is sets the PMTU discovery
> disposition based upon the setting in ipv4_config which should always
> have the same setting at the point during boot, every boot.
> 
> You need to figure out why it sometimes gets set and sometimes does
> not, then we can figure out how to fix it.

Yes, I see your point. I guess I made an incorrect assumption about it
being changed between reboots. It could be related to routing or something
instead. I'll have to dig a bit further to find a pattern. 

However, even if I *do* find the pattern, I still think it is reasonable
to turn off PMTU discovery for ICMP explicitly, instead of based on the
setting of ipv4_config:

1) The setting for the one global ICMP socket gets set once and for all
at initialization time and doesn't track the setting of ip_no_pmtu_disc.

2) Even if it *did* track ip_no_pmtu_disc, the missing per-protocol
granularity of ip_no_pmtu_disc means that you couldn't have PMTU discovery
enabled for TCP, while having it disabled for ICMP.

3) I don't see any reason for wanting to do automatic PMTU discovery for
ICMP packets; normally they are only sent once, and you'll risk it being
dropped somewhere along its path if the DF bit is set.

Svenning

  reply	other threads:[~2001-05-05 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-05 11:36 Problem with PMTU discovery on ICMP packets Svenning Soerensen
2001-05-05 11:44 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-05 14:23   ` Svenning Soerensen [this message]
2001-05-05 22:11     ` David S. Miller
2001-05-07  0:19       ` Svenning Soerensen
2001-05-10  1:21         ` David S. Miller

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