From: "Hua Zhong" <hzhong@gmail.com>
To: "'Jan Rychter'" <jan@rychter.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: <suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net>
Subject: RE: swsusp / suspend2 reliability
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:27:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <018b01c6a1fb$59f74b80$493d010a@nuitysystems.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2k66qzgri.fsf@tnuctip.rychter.com>
> Accept the facts -- for some reason, there is a fairly large
> user base that goes to all the bother of using suspend2,
> which requires downloading, patching and all the extra work.
> People do it, in spite of the wonderful swsusp being in the
> kernel and all the other extra cool stuff being worked on.
>
> That is a fact, and all the hand waving won't change it.
Truth is always painful. :-)
Greg had a good article on LWN: http://lwn.net/Articles/189467/. There you could find a more painful truth. You know what the real
reason is that suspend2 couldn't get merged? Not Nigel, not Pavel, but Linus, because he personally doesn't care. So if you want to
have a high-quality suspend-to-disk, your best bet is to convince Linus to use it. :-)
(well I'm partly joking here, but the above article and the corresponding thread is a well-worthy read
(http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.power-management.general/1884/focus=1884).
Some of the Linus quotes that you may find interesting :-)
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.power-management.general/1974
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.power-management.general/1996
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.power-management.general/2105
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.power-management.general/2193
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-07 19:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-26 15:47 Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-27 13:33 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 15:22 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Brad Campbell
2006-06-27 15:41 ` Andreas Mohr
2006-06-27 16:01 ` Avuton Olrich
2006-06-27 22:23 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 22:22 ` swsusp / suspend2 reliability (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm) Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 22:38 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-27 22:51 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 23:18 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 19:53 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 22:19 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:24 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 22:37 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:46 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 23:06 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-06-28 23:09 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 8:56 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2006-06-28 19:58 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-06 19:15 ` swsusp / suspend2 reliability Jan Rychter
2006-07-07 13:50 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 14:05 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Rohan Dhruva
2006-07-07 18:21 ` David Fox
2006-07-07 21:42 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 15:03 ` dirk husemann
2006-07-07 23:19 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 18:03 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 23:18 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 15:19 ` Avuton Olrich
2006-07-07 16:09 ` grundig
2006-07-07 17:44 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 21:39 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 21:56 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 23:25 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 23:33 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 0:04 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 0:28 ` uswsusp history lesson [was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: swsusp / suspend2 reliability] Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 3:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 10:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 11:13 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 18:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 22:35 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:31 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 11:42 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 12:52 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 13:26 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 21:04 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 22:25 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 18:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 21:10 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 22:28 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 23:54 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 0:02 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-09 0:09 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 10:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 12:45 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 21:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 22:01 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 22:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 23:00 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-12 10:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-12 10:16 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 11:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 4:33 ` Avuton Olrich
2006-07-08 11:12 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 11:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 4:58 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 9:11 ` uswsusp history lesson Jan Rychter
2006-07-08 10:14 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 10:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 11:11 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:13 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 11:16 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 13:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 22:32 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 16:43 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 16:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 17:01 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2006-07-08 19:36 ` grundig
2006-07-08 17:49 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 18:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 21:46 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-09 0:19 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 17:39 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-08 23:57 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 0:03 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <ce9ef0d90607080942w685a6b60q7611278856c78ac0@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-08 16:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 19:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 19:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 20:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10 9:11 ` dirk husemann
2006-07-10 9:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-10 10:02 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10 21:49 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10 23:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10 23:37 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10 12:45 ` Thomas Tuttle
2006-07-10 13:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
[not found] ` <ce9ef0d90607081248n1f2fc79fw199b493f3ca6313@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-08 19:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 20:13 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2006-07-08 20:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 22:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 23:46 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 23:53 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 0:18 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09 0:32 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 1:05 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09 13:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-09 21:06 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-09 21:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-09 21:46 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-09 22:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-10 3:57 ` Jason Lunz
2006-07-10 6:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 14:47 ` Jason Lunz
2006-07-11 20:13 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-10 0:28 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09 12:15 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-07-09 21:04 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10 9:10 ` dirk husemann
2006-07-08 0:28 ` [Suspend2-devel] Re: swsusp / suspend2 reliability Bojan Smojver
2006-07-07 19:27 ` Hua Zhong [this message]
2006-07-07 21:10 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2006-07-07 23:48 ` Christian Trefzer
2006-06-27 16:50 ` [Suspend2-devel] Re: Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm dirk husemann
2006-06-27 19:03 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 19:19 ` Dave Jones
2006-06-27 21:47 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 6:00 ` Brad Campbell
2006-06-28 20:03 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 6:09 ` Markus Gaugusch
[not found] ` <200606271940.23934.jaroslav@aster.pl>
[not found] ` <1e1a7e1b0606280228y6c4a0d19p12f8112d216d1aba@mail.gmail.com>
2006-06-28 11:31 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Tim Dijkstra
2006-06-27 23:37 ` Nigel Cunningham
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