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From: "Hua Zhong" <hzhong@cisco.com>
To: "'Linus Torvalds'" <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	"'Christoph Hellwig'" <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: "'P. Benie'" <pjb1008@eng.cam.ac.uk>,
	"'Kernel Mailing List'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] [2.5] Non-blocking write can block
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:14:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <019801c32abc$c233d1a0$ca41cb3f@amer.cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0306040732470.13753-100000@home.transmeta.com>

We ran into this problem here in an embedded environment. It causes
syslogd to hang and when this happens, everybody who talks to syslogd
hangs. Which means you may not even be able to login. In the end we used
exactly the same fix which seems to work.

I am curious to know the correct fix.

> On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > 
> > The else should be on the same line as the closing brace, else
> > the patch looks fine.
> 
> No no no, it's wrong.
> 
> If you do something like this, then you also have to teach "select()" 
> about this, otherwise you just get busy looping in applications.
> 
> In general, we shouldn't do this, unless somebody can show an 
> application 
> where it really matters. Taking internal kernel locking into 
> account for 
> "blockingness" easily gets quite complicated, and there is 
> seldom any real 
> point to it.
> 
> Remember: perfect is the enemy of good. I'll happily apply 
> the patch (if 
> it also updates the tty poll() functionality), _if_ there is some 
> real-world situation where it matters.
> 
> 		Linus
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-06-04 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-04  0:58 [PATCH] [2.5] Non-blocking write can block P. Benie
2003-06-04  5:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-06-04 14:35   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-04 14:58     ` P. Benie
2003-06-04 16:47     ` Alan Cox
2003-06-04 17:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-04 19:46         ` P. Benie
2003-06-04 19:56           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-04 20:48             ` P. Benie
2003-06-11  0:19               ` Robert White
2003-06-04 20:43           ` Hua Zhong
2003-06-04 23:42           ` Russell King
2003-06-04 23:47             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-04 21:29         ` Alan Cox
2003-06-04 17:14     ` Hua Zhong [this message]
2003-06-04 17:41       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-04 18:44         ` Hua Zhong
2003-06-04 18:47           ` P. Benie
2003-06-04 19:23             ` P. Benie
2003-06-04 19:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-04 17:53       ` Mike Dresser
2003-06-04 15:21   ` Coding standards. (Was: Re: [PATCH] [2.5] Non-blocking write can block) Timothy Miller
2003-06-07  0:12     ` Greg KH
2003-06-07  0:59       ` Alex Goddard
2003-06-09 16:24       ` Timothy Miller
2003-06-09 16:39         ` Jörn Engel
2003-06-09 17:15           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-09 17:33             ` Eli Carter
2003-06-09 17:49               ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-06-09 18:07                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-09 18:22                   ` Jörn Engel
2003-06-09 18:55             ` Timothy Miller
2003-06-09 18:58               ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-09 21:35                 ` David Schwartz
2003-06-09 22:55                   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-09 23:21                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2003-06-09 21:54                 ` Jörn Engel
2003-06-10 18:17                 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-06-10 18:41                   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-10 18:14               ` Jesse Pollard
2003-06-09 23:50             ` James Stevenson
2003-06-09 18:44           ` Timothy Miller
2003-06-09 22:00             ` Jörn Engel
     [not found] <20030604172026$296c@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030604175013$3a4d@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-06-04 19:13   ` [PATCH] [2.5] Non-blocking write can block Ben Pfaff
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-06-04 19:36 Hua Zhong
2003-06-04 20:09 ` Hua Zhong
2003-06-05  0:04 Ed Vance
2003-06-05  0:19 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-05 18:34   ` Mike Fedyk
2003-06-05 19:15     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-06-05 21:46       ` Joe Korty
2003-06-06  0:13     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-06 12:13 Nicholas Berry

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