From: <markus.stockhausen@gmx.de>
To: "'Daniel Lezcano'" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>, <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: <howels@allthatwemight.be>, <bjorn@mork.no>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: AW: AW: [PATCH 1/4] clocksource/drivers/timer-rtl-otto: work around dying timers
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 20:16:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <020f01dc227f$03e40b60$0bac2220$@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <38633f6f-c14c-4a74-b372-cdfdab80619e@linaro.org>
> Von: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. September 2025 18:39
>
> > What I tried:
> >
> > 1. Read out the current (remaining) timer value: In the error cases
> > this can give any value between 1 (=320ns) and 15 (=4800ns).
> >
> > 2. Check if IRQ flag is already set and IRQ might trigger next. This was
> > never the case.
>
> It would have been interesting to check if we are in the time bug range
> to wait with a delay (5us), check the IRQ flag as the current timer
> should have expired, then set the counter and recheck the IRQ flag.
It's been 2 months that I dived deep into this case. Finding a
reproducer, adding lightweight logging and try&error a solution
was really hard. In the end I was happy to have a fix that was
intensively tested.
For some notes see
https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/19468#issuecomment-3095570297
From what I remember:
- I started on a multithreading SoC and went over to a single
core SoC to reduce side effects during analysis.
- The timer never died when it was reprogrammed from
an interrupt of a just finished timer. The reason was always
a reprogramming from outside the interrupt->reprogram
call sequence.
- Reprogramming always worked fine. A timer with <5us left, was
restarted with a timer >5us. The new timer started to count.
No interrupt flag seemed to be magically toggled during this
process. There was no active IRQ notification directly after the
reprogramming. That was how I expected it.
- But in rare cases the new timer did not trigger the subsequent
interrupt. I was totally confused that the future interrupt of
a newly started timer did not work.
Graphically:
- timer run ---+-------------------->|
| issue stop & start
| timer run ------------------>|
| no IRQ here
Conclusion was for me: If we "kill" a running timer and restart
it and it will not fire an interrupt after the newly set time,
then something must be somehow broken. The ending timer and
the stop/start sequence (that consists of two register writes)
have some interference. Whatever it might be.
Markus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-10 18:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-04 8:03 [PATCH 0/4] clocksource/drivers/timer-rtl-otto: enhancements Markus Stockhausen
2025-08-04 8:03 ` [PATCH 1/4] clocksource/drivers/timer-rtl-otto: work around dying timers Markus Stockhausen
2025-09-10 9:02 ` Daniel Lezcano
2025-09-10 10:16 ` AW: " markus.stockhausen
2025-09-10 16:39 ` Daniel Lezcano
2025-09-10 18:16 ` markus.stockhausen [this message]
2025-09-10 20:53 ` AW: " Daniel Lezcano
2025-08-04 8:03 ` [PATCH 2/4] clocksource/drivers/timer-rtl-otto: drop set_counter function Markus Stockhausen
2025-08-04 8:03 ` [PATCH 3/4] clocksource/drivers/timer-rtl-otto: do not interfere with interrupts Markus Stockhausen
2025-08-04 8:03 ` [PATCH 4/4] clocksource/drivers/timer-rtl-otto: simplify documentation Markus Stockhausen
2025-09-10 20:54 ` [PATCH 0/4] clocksource/drivers/timer-rtl-otto: enhancements Daniel Lezcano
2025-09-10 21:15 ` AW: " markus.stockhausen
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