From: "jdow" <jdow@earthlink.net>
To: "Jesper Juhl" <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>, <nick@linicks.net>
Cc: "Horst von Brand" <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>,
"Bernd Petrovitsch" <bernd@firmix.at>,
"marty fouts" <mf.danger@gmail.com>,
"David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
"Matti Aarnio" <matti.aarnio@zmailer.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:03:46 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <027e01c68e74$76875910$0225a8c0@Wednesday> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 9a8748490606121506w43c8a45yf44d0c4120ae80c@mail.gmail.com
From: "Jesper Juhl" <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>
> On 12/06/06, Nick Warne <nick.warne@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have been following this closely, and without getting into the
>> discussion re SPF, I think one issue especially affecting LKML is the
>> traffic.
>>
>> One (almost sure) fire way to stop the spam is to make a subscribed
>> ML. But people like myself cannot/have not the resource to take on
>> the 200+ mails a day (how the kernel devs manage it, I don't know?).
>>
>> So I have subscribed via my gmail account to follow the mails, but
>> then at least I can reply from my 'real address' and keep the thread
>> intact (if you see what I mean).
>>
>> So, why not make the list a subscribe only list to SEND, but give an
>> option to NOT receive any mail from the list unless CC'ed?
>>
>
> Making subscription to LKML a requirement would be a major barier for
> people who just want to shoot off a bug report or similar but who do
> not want to be subscribed (nor can be botherd to go through the
> motions to subscribe, or perhaps can't work out how to subscribe)...
> We want users to be able to submit bugreports to the list easily.
Greylist those who have not subscribed. Let their email server try
again in 30 minutes. For those who are not subscribed it should not
matter if their message is delayed 30 minutes. And so far spammers
never try again. That's FAR more likely to nail spam than using SPF
as a singular measure. It doesn't even require the remote DNS
transaction to check an SPF record.
{^_^} Joanne
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-12 23:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-10 22:27 VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter) Matti Aarnio
2006-06-10 23:06 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-11 0:16 ` Rik van Riel
2006-06-11 0:44 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-11 13:02 ` Theodore Tso
2006-06-11 13:55 ` Rik van Riel
2006-06-11 14:03 ` Avi Kivity
2006-06-12 8:47 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-12 10:17 ` Neil Brown
2006-06-12 10:35 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-12 11:07 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-11 2:24 ` marty fouts
2006-06-11 2:41 ` jdow
2006-06-11 2:58 ` David Schwartz
2006-06-11 5:17 ` jdow
2006-06-12 8:18 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-12 8:23 ` jdow
2006-06-12 8:31 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-12 9:47 ` Neil Brown
2006-06-12 10:30 ` Alan Cox
2006-06-12 10:33 ` Neil Brown
2006-06-12 17:37 ` Gerhard Mack
2006-06-12 18:14 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-06-12 18:46 ` jdow
2006-06-12 19:16 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-06-12 21:51 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-13 21:12 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-12 9:53 ` Alan Cox
2006-06-12 10:01 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-12 11:14 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-12 10:58 ` Neil Brown
2006-06-12 11:22 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-12 11:42 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-06-13 23:32 ` Scott Lockwood
2006-06-13 23:42 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-06-14 0:02 ` Neil Brown
2006-06-14 10:20 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-16 3:53 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-06-12 8:27 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-12 20:25 ` Horst von Brand
2006-06-12 21:10 ` Nick Warne
2006-06-12 22:06 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-06-12 22:12 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-06-12 23:03 ` jdow [this message]
2006-06-13 3:00 ` Horst von Brand
2006-06-13 5:54 ` jdow
2006-06-13 8:36 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-13 9:58 ` Marc Perkel
2006-06-13 13:28 ` Horst von Brand
2006-06-13 14:34 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-13 9:05 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-13 10:45 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-13 12:24 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-13 12:49 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-13 13:10 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-13 15:19 ` Marc Perkel
2006-06-13 15:57 ` Auke Kok
2006-06-13 19:54 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-13 20:31 ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-06-13 20:48 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-15 17:05 ` Keith Owens
2006-06-15 23:14 ` Wakko Warner
2006-06-13 0:11 ` Phil Oester
2006-06-13 0:26 ` David Miller
2006-06-13 4:18 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-06-13 15:17 ` Joel Jaeggli
2006-06-12 21:43 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-13 3:05 ` Horst von Brand
2006-06-13 8:31 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-13 10:50 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-13 13:15 ` Justin Piszcz
2006-06-11 5:09 ` Neil Brown
2006-06-11 5:26 ` jdow
2006-06-11 6:12 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-06-11 16:02 ` Folkert van Heusden
2006-06-11 17:54 ` Lee Revell
2006-06-11 18:54 ` David Miller
2006-06-12 9:09 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-12 11:32 ` Nikita Danilov
2006-06-12 14:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-12 20:00 ` David Miller
2006-06-12 22:29 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-06-12 22:48 ` David Miller
2006-06-12 22:57 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-06-13 3:54 ` VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter) - Alternative Marc Perkel
2006-06-13 4:51 ` David Miller
2006-06-13 13:41 ` VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter) Athanasius
2006-06-11 17:31 ` Marc Perkel
2006-06-11 18:50 ` Florian Weimer
[not found] ` <20060611072223.GA16150@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>
2006-06-12 8:32 ` Matti Aarnio
2006-06-12 8:40 ` Russell King
2006-06-12 9:57 ` Neil Brown
2006-06-12 15:55 ` Russell King
2006-06-12 20:06 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2006-06-12 11:22 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-12 15:41 ` Simon Oosthoek
2006-06-12 22:55 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-13 17:41 ` Matti Aarnio
2006-06-12 9:05 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-12 17:28 ` Matthew Frost
2006-06-13 0:12 ` David Woodhouse
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