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Subject: Re: VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter) 
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From: "Horst von Brand" <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>

> jdow <jdow@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> Greylist those who have not subscribed.
> 
> That is not easy to do.

Somebody needs to write the code to make it easy to do for a list
server. It should not be hard to do.

>>                                         Let their email server try
>> again in 30 minutes. For those who are not subscribed it should not
>> matter if their message is delayed 30 minutes. And so far spammers
>> never try again.
> 
> Wrong. Greylisting does stop an immense amount of spam here, but a lot
> comes through.

So if it's not perfect it's not worth doing at all, eh? Yet you think
SPF, which is FAR less suited as a spam preventative, is a single
point solution. Double think was supposed to have come and gone in
1984, I thought.

{^_^}