Re: Why DRM exists [was Re: Flame Linus to a crisp!]

rmoser
2003-04-28T00:08:33Z

No need to get indignant. Just that these messages generally
go:

<Message 1> You're copying things, you're breaking the law,
you're going to be nailed
<Message 2> Well what are we going to do about it?
<Message 3> Stop!
<Message 4> We can't we ahve to make this work with that.
<Message 5> Do it some other way you're doing foo bar baz
<Message 6> We are not foo! Define bar and wtf is baz?
<Message 7> Bar is biz, baz is delta, your economic model
is flawed, you can't think, you're stupid

.....

Or something like that. I mean it's ignorable for a while but God,
like I can't find 10 contiguous messages from the past 2 days (I
signed on on friday) that doesn't include this thread. The past
few hours have it where it's trouble finding a group of 10 messages
where less than 8 are this thread.

It's just getting excessive. I'm expecting to see

<Message 200> Shut up moron!
<message 201> Hah! Call me a moron 2!$*head? You can't
code worth balls!
<Message 202> Can't code? I'll show you you ba@$!4%!

......

some time soon

--Bluefox Icy

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On 4/27/2003 at 5:10 PM Larry McVoy wrote:

>Jeeze, buddy, sorry to waste your time. I'll go kill myself now.
>Not. Get a life. If you don't like a thread, kill it. If you
>don't like me, add me to your procmailrc. But since I've been
>around working on Linux and stuff that predates Linux by about
>10 years or so, maybe I'll just post whatever the heck I feel
>like and if you don't like it, well, gosh, darn, I'm sooooo
>sorry I've wasted your time, but I really could care less.
>I certainly hope that's OK with you, but if not, oh, darn.
>
>On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 08:00:23PM -0400, rmoser wrote:
>> Just some clarification, this thread is generating excessive traffic.
>> Is this actually a useful topic, or are you just having a flamewar?
>> If it's just a big argument, can you stop? Like, get your own list,
>> put all the participants on it, and flame there.
>>
>> If it's relavent, then get to the point.
>>
>> --Bluefox Icy
>>
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>>
>> On 4/27/2003 at 4:53 PM Larry McVoy wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 11:51:58PM +0100, Matthew Kirkwood wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 27 Apr 2003, Larry McVoy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Please excuse the aggressive trimming, but I don't think I'm
>> >> affecting the intent of your works.
>> >
>> >I agree, what you did is fine, great in fact. Thanks.
>> >
>> >> > 1) Corporations are threatened when people copy their content
>> >and/or
>> >> > products.
>> >>
>> >> I think that the word "copy" may be a significant cause
>> >> of artificial disagreement here. I, for one, find it just
>> >> as misleading as "free" (is it as-in-beer or as-in-speech?).
>> >>
>> >> Larry -- would you be willing, in future postings of this
>> >> nature, to distinguish "duplicate" and "reimplement"?
>> >
>> >A very good point, you're right. And it's worse because I use "copying"
>> >to mean two different things depending on context.
>> >
>> >To clarify: in general, when I'm talking about copying, what I mean
>depends
>> >on whether I'm talking about content or software programs. For content,
>> >copying means the act of generating a new copy of the content (copying
>> >mp3 files via Napster like services, for example). For programs, which
>> >is usually what I'm talking about, I mean the act of sitting down and
>> >trying to make a new program which does the same thing as the old
>program.
>> >
>> >I think some people may think that I mean redistribution when I say
>> >copying and I almost never am talking about that.
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