From: Jesse Pollard <jesse@cats-chateau.net>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@cluster fs.com> =?CP
1252?q?=2CS=F8ren=20Hansen?= <sh@warma.dk>,
"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: UID/GID mapping system
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:17:43 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <04031511174301.13518@tabby> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040312200833.GC24074@fieldses.org>
On Friday 12 March 2004 14:08, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 07:58:33AM -0600, Jesse Pollard wrote:
> > Not really - it would be a 1:1 map... so what would be the purpose?
>
> Are you asking what would be the purpose of client-side mapping?
>
> So, in the worst case you have a laptop that you want to be able to
> simultaneously mount one NFS server maintained by organization X, and
> another maintained by organization Y. But unfortunately you have
> different uid's in X and Y. (Given sufficiently large independent
> organizations X and Y this is inevitable and unfixable.) What do you
> do?
The server maps the valid uid to the uid used on the client.
Obviously the client is not under the control of the server security domain.
> > The problem is in the audit - the server would report a violation in
> > uid xxx. Which according to it's records is not used on the penetrated
> > client (at least not via the filesystem). Yet the administrator would
> > report that the uid is valid (because of a bogus local map).
>
> I don't understand your description of the problem; could you be more
> specific? E.g., what do you mean by "a violation in uid xxx"?
>
> In general if your server trusts clients to get uid's right, and if
> users already have sufficient control over the client to tell the kernel
> to remap uid's, then they can already lie to the server about their uid.
> (It probably happens every now and then already just by mistake; e.g. if
> people are throwing a linux distribution on their personal laptop and
> expecting to be able to mount the nfsd server there's a good chance
> they'll forget to give themselves the right uid from the start.)
1. your first assumpion: "if your server trusts clients". The server
should NOT trust a remote client.
2. "then they can already lie to the server about their uid" means the client
is NOT under control and again should not be trusted.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-15 17:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-08 19:45 UID/GID mapping system Søren Hansen
2004-03-09 16:46 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-03-09 19:28 ` Søren Hansen
2004-03-10 15:28 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-03-10 17:58 ` Søren Hansen
2004-03-10 21:41 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-03-10 22:45 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-03-11 8:29 ` Søren Hansen
2004-03-11 14:31 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-03-11 14:45 ` Søren Hansen
2004-03-11 15:58 ` J. Bruce Fields
2004-03-11 19:41 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-03-12 8:41 ` Søren Hansen
2004-03-11 14:10 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-03-10 23:46 ` Andreas Dilger
2004-03-11 14:08 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-03-11 16:02 ` J. Bruce Fields
2004-03-12 13:58 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-03-12 20:08 ` J. Bruce Fields
2004-03-15 17:17 ` Jesse Pollard [this message]
2004-03-15 17:49 ` Andreas Dilger
[not found] ` <fa.ct61k6d.bm43gj@ifi.uio.no>
2004-03-11 19:40 ` Kevin Buhr
2004-03-11 23:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-12 14:49 ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-11 8:22 ` Søren Hansen
2004-03-11 14:18 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-03-11 14:39 ` Søren Hansen
2004-03-12 13:52 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-03-12 15:00 ` Søren Hansen
2004-03-15 17:05 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-03-16 8:08 ` Søren Hansen
2004-03-09 19:28 ` Søren Hansen
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