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I agree with your concern. I will not translate the DCO text itself in the next revision. In v3, I will keep the DCO 1.1 text in English as the original verbatim text, and add a Japanese explanation that the sign-off refers to the English DCO text, not to a translated version. I will prepare v3 after checking the wording again. Thanks, Akiyoshi Kurita 2026-07-12 17:11 に Akira Yokosawa さんは書きました: > Hi, > > On Sun, 12 Jul 2026 06:55:10 +0900, Akiyoshi Kurita wrote: >> Translate the "Include PATCH in the subject" and "Sign your work - >> the Developer's Certificate of Origin" sections into Japanese. >> >> Keep the DCO text as a literal block to match commit 999161066dc5 >> ("docs: submitting-patches: Fix section structure around DCO"). >> >> Signed-off-by: Akiyoshi Kurita >> >> --- >> Changes in v2: >> >> - Added the Japanese translation of the "Include PATCH in the subject" >> section. >> - Updated the DCO translation to match the current English text and >> structure. >> - Kept the DCO statement in a literal block following commit >> 999161066dc5. > > You didn't address my concern expressed in v1 review. > This is what I said: > > What you need to agree in signing off is the English certificate. > Not the translated one. So this can confuse people. > > I don't have any good idea. > > Please convince me you can translate the certificate > without any concern of confusion. > > You said in your reply: > > I agree that translating the DCO text itself could be confusing, > because the sign-off refers to the English certificate, not to a > translated version. > >> >> >> .../ja_JP/process/submitting-patches.rst | 66 >> +++++++++++++++++++ >> 1 file changed, 66 insertions(+) >> > [...] > >> +作業への署名 - Developer's Certificate of Origin >> +-------------------------------------------------- >> + >> +誰が何を行ったのかを追跡しやすくするため、特にパッチが複数階層の >> +メンテナーを経由して最終的にカーネルへ取り込まれる場合に備えて、 >> +メールでやり取りされるパッチには sign-off の手続きが導入されています。 >> + >> +sign-off は、パッチの説明の末尾に追加する単純な一行です。これは、 >> +そのパッチを自分で作成したか、オープンソースのパッチとして提出する >> +権利を持っていることを証明します。以下を証明できる場合、規則は単純です:: >> + >> + Developer's Certificate of Origin 1.1 >> + >> + このプロジェクトへ貢献することにより、私は以下を証明します: >> + >> + (a) この貢献の全部または一部を私が作成し、ファイルに示された >> + オープンソースライセンスの下で提出する権利を有していること。 >> + または、 >> + >> + (b) 私の知る限り、この貢献は適切なオープンソースライセンスの >> + 対象となる以前の成果物に基づいており、そのライセンスに従って、 >> + 私が全部または一部を変更した成果物を、ファイルに示された >> + 同じオープンソースライセンスの下で提出する権利を有していること。 >> + ただし、別のライセンスで提出することを許可されている場合を除く。 >> + または、 >> + >> + (c) この貢献は、(a)、(b)、または (c) を証明した別の人物から >> + 私へ直接提供されたものであり、私が変更を加えていないこと。 >> + >> + (d) このプロジェクトおよび貢献が公開されること、ならびに私が >> + 提出したすべての個人情報と sign-off を含む貢献の記録が >> + 無期限に保存され、このプロジェクトまたは関連する >> + オープンソースライセンスに従って再配布される可能性があることを >> + 理解し、同意すること。 >> + > > This will confuse people, as you have agreed. > > So, I think you need to do something more to prevent any confusion. > > I guess you have another hurdle to clear. > > Text of DCO 1.1 is available at: https://developercertificate.org/ > > It carries this legal statement: > > Copyright (C) 2004, 2006 The Linux Foundation and its contributors. > > Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of > this > license document, but changing it is not allowed. > > There is no mention of translation, so I can't figure out if > translation > is allowed. > > To be clear, I don't have sufficient background for reviewing > legal (contract/agreement/certificate/...) text. So there is a high > chance of me being confused. > > Thanks, > Akira > >> +上記を証明できる場合は、次のような行を追加します:: >> + >> + Signed-off-by: Random J Developer >> >> + > [...]