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From: Mario Limonciello <superm1@kernel.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Daniel Gibson <daniel@gibson.sh>
Cc: "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@kernel.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Documentation/arch/x86/amd-debugging: Add section about delay_suspend
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2026 12:27:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <05d560cb-d218-4638-bfcb-d3e549720b16@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260806014151.GFanPmX5VhBUG_6DLS@fat_crate.local>

On 8/5/26 20:41, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 06, 2026 at 12:54:04AM +0200, Daniel Gibson wrote:
>> That document mainly talks about s2idle issues and lists issues that have
>> been quirked in the past, so IMHO it fits there?
> 
> Did you not read the first sentence of that document?
> 
>> Also, Mario Limonciello (of AMD) suggested documenting it there in:
>> https://lore.kernel.org/platform-driver-x86/f86d9af4-6415-427a-9f4e-639b2ae6203e@kernel.org/
> 
> Maybe he needs to read the first sentence of that document too.
> 
>> However, if there's a specific Wiki you think would be appropriate to
>> document this in, I should probably document it there as well.
> 
> You have a pretty good commit message in
> 
>    428b9fd2dce5 ("platform/x86/amd/pmc: Add delay_suspend module parameter")
> 
> You have a bugzilla entry, you have a mailing list thread, you have a module
> param documentation.
> 
> How much more do you need to document this? People should be able to use
> search engines or AI, right?
> 
> The problem with adding some hints as to how suspend can be fixed on some
> laptops is that we'll open the floodgates. Do you know how many laptops need
> quirks and fixes for suspend?
> 
> In any case, this doc is not for that.
> 
> Sorry.
> 

I guess I have a different opinion here.  If someone very technical 
comes to me and says I want to debug an issue with suspend or shutdown I 
want to give them a single link that has all the information they can 
use to learn.

I thought this could fit in well at 18.7, and then even if a search 
engine or AI tool stumbles on that page it can learn about the debugging 
parameter too.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-10 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-24 12:43 [PATCH 0/2] Document amd_pmc delay_suspend quirk Daniel Gibson
2026-06-24 12:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] Documentation/arch/x86/amd-debugging: Add example for reset register Daniel Gibson
2026-07-01 22:21   ` Mario Limonciello
2026-06-24 12:43 ` [PATCH 2/2] Documentation/arch/x86/amd-debugging: Add section about delay_suspend Daniel Gibson
2026-08-05 22:09   ` Daniel Gibson
2026-08-05 22:40     ` Borislav Petkov
2026-08-05 22:54       ` Daniel Gibson
2026-08-06  1:41         ` Borislav Petkov
2026-08-10 17:27           ` Mario Limonciello [this message]
2026-08-10 20:28             ` Daniel Gibson

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