From: Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>
To: Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/14] rust: drm: gem: Simplify use of generics
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2025 14:50:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <077f45346dad3edef5ef81711d1d9b649d78b26f.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C036DE82-747A-4DCE-845F-CE832DA8991A@collabora.com>
On Mon, 2025-09-01 at 12:37 -0300, Daniel Almeida wrote:
> Hi Lyude, thanks a lot for working on this! :)
>
> > On 29 Aug 2025, at 19:35, Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Now that my rust skills have been honed, I noticed that there's a lot of
> > generics in our gem bindings that don't actually need to be here. Currently
> > the hierarchy of traits in our gem bindings looks like this:
> >
> > * Drivers implement:
> > * BaseDriverObject<T: DriverObject> (has the callbacks)
> > * DriverObject (has the drm::Driver type)
> > * Crate implements:
> > * IntoGEMObject for Object<T> where T: DriverObject
> > Handles conversion to/from raw object pointers
> > * BaseObject for T where T: IntoGEMObject
> > Provides methods common to all gem interfaces
> >
> > Also of note, this leaves us with two different drm::Driver associated
> > types:
> > * DriverObject::Driver
> > * IntoGEMObject::Driver
> >
> > I'm not entirely sure of the original intent here unfortunately (if anyone
> > is, please let me know!), but my guess is that the idea would be that some
> > objects can implement IntoGEMObject using a different ::Driver than
> > DriverObject - presumably to enable the usage of gem objects from different
> > drivers. A reasonable usecase of course.
> >
> > However - if I'm not mistaken, I don't think that this is actually how
> > things would go in practice. Driver implementations are of course
> > implemented by their associated drivers, and generally drivers are not
> > linked to each-other when building the kernel. Which is to say that even in
> > a situation where we would theoretically deal with gem objects from another
> > driver, we still wouldn't have access to its drm::driver::Driver
> > implementation. It's more likely we would simply want a variant of gem
> > objects in such a situation that have no association with a
> > drm::driver::Driver type.
> >
> > Taking that into consideration, we can assume the following:
> > * Anything that implements BaseDriverObject will implement DriverObject
> > In other words, all BaseDriverObjects indirectly have an associated
> > ::Driver type - so the two traits can be combined into one with no
> > generics.
> > * Not everything that implements IntoGEMObject will have an associated
> > ::Driver, and that's OK.
> >
> > And with this, we now can do quite a bit of cleanup with the use of
> > generics here. As such, this commit:
> >
> > * Removes the generics on BaseDriverObject
> > * Moves DriverObject::Driver into BaseDriverObject
> > * Removes DriverObject
> > * Removes IntoGEMObject::Driver
> > * Add AllocImpl::Driver, which we can use as a binding to figure out the
> > correct File type for BaseObject
> >
> > Leaving us with a simpler trait hierarchy that now looks like this:
> >
> > * Drivers implement: BaseDriverObject
> > * Crate implements:
> > * IntoGEMObject for Object<T> where T: DriverObject
> > * BaseObject for T where T: IntoGEMObject
> >
> > Which makes the code a lot easier to understand and build on :).
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>
> >
> > ---
> > V2:
> > * Don't refer to Object<T> in callbacks, as this would result in drivers
> > getting the wrong gem object type for shmem gem objects once we add
> > support for those. Instead, we'll just add a type alias to clean this
> > part up.
> > V3:
> > * Fix nova compilation
> > * Also, add an associated driver type to AllocImpl - as we still need the
> > current driver accessible from BaseObject so that we can use the driver's
> > various associated types, like File
> > V4:
>
> ?
>
> This is v3. Can you clarify this before we go further? :)
Whoops! Usually the way that I keep track of my changelogs is by typing them
in squash! commits, and then leaving them below the patch cutline once I
squash everything. It looks like at some point I mistakenly typed V4: on one
of the squash commits instead of V3: and didn't catch it. So, that comment is
definitely for V3 - not V4 which doesn't exist yet
>
> > * Add missing Object = Self constraint to type bounds for create_handle,
> > lookup_handle. I forgot that if drivers can have private gem objects with
> > a different data layout, we can only guarantee gem objects with handles
> > are of the same gem object type as the main one in use by the driver.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>
>
> — Daniel
>
--
Cheers,
Lyude Paul (she/her)
Software Engineer at Red Hat
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-02 18:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-29 22:35 [PATCH v3 00/14] Rust abstractions for shmem-backed GEM objects Lyude Paul
2025-08-29 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] rust: drm: gem: Simplify use of generics Lyude Paul
2025-09-01 15:37 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-09-02 18:50 ` Lyude Paul [this message]
2025-08-29 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] rust: drm: gem: Add DriverFile type alias Lyude Paul
2025-08-29 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] rust: drm: gem: Drop Object::SIZE Lyude Paul
2025-08-29 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] rust: drm: gem: Support driver-private GEM object types Lyude Paul
2025-08-29 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] rust: helpers: Add bindings/wrappers for dma_resv_lock Lyude Paul
2025-08-29 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] rust: drm: gem: Add raw_dma_resv() function Lyude Paul
2025-08-29 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] drm/gem/shmem: Extract drm_gem_shmem_init() from drm_gem_shmem_create() Lyude Paul
2025-08-29 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] drm/gem/shmem: Extract drm_gem_shmem_release() from drm_gem_shmem_free() Lyude Paul
2025-08-29 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] rust: gem: Introduce DriverObject::Args Lyude Paul
2025-08-29 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] rust: drm: gem: shmem: Add DRM shmem helper abstraction Lyude Paul
2025-08-29 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] rust: drm: gem: Introduce SGTableRef Lyude Paul
2025-08-29 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] rust: Add dma_buf stub bindings Lyude Paul
2025-08-29 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] rust: drm: gem: Add export() callback Lyude Paul
2025-08-29 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] rust: drm: gem: Add BaseObject::prime_export() Lyude Paul
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