From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
Laura Nao <laura.nao@collabora.com>,
mturquette@baylibre.com, sboyd@kernel.org, robh@kernel.org,
krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org, matthias.bgg@gmail.com,
p.zabel@pengutronix.de, richardcochran@gmail.com
Cc: guangjie.song@mediatek.com, wenst@chromium.org,
linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 09/29] dt-bindings: clock: mediatek: Describe MT8196 peripheral clock controllers
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 10:57:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0870a2ba-936b-4eb2-a570-f2c9dea471b8@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <284a4ee5-806b-45f9-8d57-d02ec291e389@collabora.com>
On 25/06/2025 10:20, AngeloGioacchino Del Regno wrote:
> Il 24/06/25 18:02, Krzysztof Kozlowski ha scritto:
>> On 24/06/2025 16:32, Laura Nao wrote:
>>> + '#reset-cells':
>>> + const: 1
>>> + description:
>>> + Reset lines for PEXTP0/1 and UFS blocks.
>>> +
>>> + mediatek,hardware-voter:
>>> + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/phandle
>>> + description:
>>> + On the MT8196 SoC, a Hardware Voter (HWV) backed by a fixed-function
>>> + MCU manages clock and power domain control across the AP and other
>>> + remote processors. By aggregating their votes, it ensures clocks are
>>> + safely enabled/disabled and power domains are active before register
>>> + access.
>>
>> Resource voting is not via any phandle, but either interconnects or
>> required opps for power domain.
>
> Sorry, I'm not sure who is actually misunderstanding what, here... let me try to
> explain the situation:
>
> This is effectively used as a syscon - as in, the clock controllers need to perform
> MMIO R/W on both the clock controller itself *and* has to place a vote to the clock
> controller specific HWV register.
syscon is not the interface to place a vote for clocks. "clocks"
property is.
>
> This is done for MUX-GATE and GATE clocks, other than for power domains.
>
> Note that the HWV system is inside of the power domains controller, and it's split
> on a per hardware macro-block basis (as per usual MediaTek hardware layout...).
>
> The HWV, therefore, does *not* vote for clock *rates* (so, modeling OPPs would be
> a software quirk, I think?), does *not* manage bandwidth (and interconnect is for
> voting BW only?), and is just a "switch to flip".
That's still clocks. Gate is a clock.
>
> Is this happening because the description has to be improved and creating some
> misunderstanding, or is it because we are underestimating and/or ignoring something
> here?
>
Other vendors, at least qcom, represent it properly - clocks. Sometimes
they mix up and represent it as power domains, but that's because
downstream is a mess and because we actually (at upstream) don't really
know what is inside there - is it a clock or power domain.
Best regards,
Krzysztof
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-25 8:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-24 14:31 [PATCH v2 00/29] Add support for MT8196 clock controllers Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:31 ` [PATCH v2 01/29] clk: mediatek: clk-pll: Add set/clr regs for shared PLL enable control Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:31 ` [PATCH v2 02/29] clk: mediatek: clk-pll: Add ops for PLLs using set/clr regs and FENC Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:31 ` [PATCH v2 03/29] clk: mediatek: clk-mux: Add ops for mux gates with set/clr/upd " Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:31 ` [PATCH v2 04/29] clk: mediatek: clk-mtk: Introduce mtk_clk_get_hwv_regmap() Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:31 ` [PATCH v2 05/29] clk: mediatek: clk-mux: Add ops for mux gates with HW voter and FENC Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:31 ` [PATCH v2 06/29] clk: mediatek: clk-gate: Refactor mtk_clk_register_gate to use mtk_gate struct Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:31 ` [PATCH v2 07/29] clk: mediatek: clk-gate: Add ops for gates with HW voter Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:31 ` [PATCH v2 08/29] clk: mediatek: clk-mtk: Add MUX_DIV_GATE macro Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 09/29] dt-bindings: clock: mediatek: Describe MT8196 peripheral clock controllers Laura Nao
2025-06-24 16:02 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-25 8:20 ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2025-06-25 8:57 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2025-06-25 9:45 ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2025-06-25 11:05 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-25 12:42 ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2025-06-27 8:37 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-30 9:21 ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2025-06-25 11:06 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-25 12:48 ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2025-06-27 8:44 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 10/29] dt-bindings: reset: Add MediaTek MT8196 Reset Controller binding Laura Nao
2025-06-24 16:03 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-24 16:04 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-25 8:48 ` Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 11/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 apmixedsys clock support Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 12/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 topckgen " Laura Nao
2025-07-15 4:53 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2025-07-15 5:26 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 13/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 topckgen2 " Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 14/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 vlpckgen " Laura Nao
2025-07-15 7:28 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2025-07-18 8:31 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2025-07-22 10:52 ` Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 15/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 peripheral " Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 16/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 ufssys " Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 17/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 pextpsys " Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 18/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 adsp " Laura Nao
2025-07-15 4:36 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 19/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 I2C " Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 20/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 mcu " Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 21/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 mdpsys " Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 22/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 mfg " Laura Nao
2025-06-29 20:56 ` kernel test robot
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 23/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 disp0 " Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 24/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 disp1 " Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 25/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 disp-ao " Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 26/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 ovl0 " Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 27/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 ovl1 " Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 28/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 vdecsys " Laura Nao
2025-06-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 29/29] clk: mediatek: Add MT8196 vencsys " Laura Nao
2025-06-24 15:49 ` [PATCH v2 00/29] Add support for MT8196 clock controllers Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
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