From: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Wang <00107082@163.com>,
catalin.marinas@arm.com, lance.yang@linux.dev, b-padhi@ti.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Jan Polensky <japo@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Linux 6.18-rc6
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 19:24:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <08790cc2-0db4-4920-8331-9061114e8645@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiigmijRQkgAY+JKgjKC-PyB1nc440HvVDxZ5EjrMtkRg@mail.gmail.com>
On 17.11.25 18:59, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 at 09:53, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
> <david@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> I had the same in mind for a second, but then I looked at
>> kernel_init_pages() with the kasan_disable_current() handling and
>> concluded that it's clearer to just disallow tag_clear_highpage() being
>> abused in the first place and reduce the effective code footprint of
>> post_alloc_hook().
>
> See, I had the exact opposite reaction: I think the one-liner is
> better not just because it's simpler, but exactly *because* of the
> mess that is kernel_init_pages().
Heh, I intuitively avoid runtime checks on the fast paths where avoidable :)
>
> IOW, that one-liner is either correct *without* all that crud - and
> it's unnecessary for the __GFP_ZEROTAGS case because that only happens
> at init time - or it shows a bug in the arm64 code.
What sticks out is that we perform the tag_clear_highpage() before we do
all the KASAN poison magic. And we perform the kernel_init_pages() after
the kasan magic.
The clear_highpage() fallback in tag_clear_highpage() was just recently
added by Catalin (in the same commit we are fixing here IIRC).
I am no expert on KASAN, but I would suspect that it is important for us
to clear the pages after doing the
kasan_unpoison_pages/page_kasan_tag_reset.
I'll have to dig into the history of tag_clear_highpage() a bit to
understand how this would interact with non-hw-tag-based KASAN. IIRC,
amd64 also supports SW-tag KASAN.
>
> Either way it's a win. Either it's simpler, or it gives us better coverage.
>
> No?
Staring a bit more at the arm64 fallback in tag_clear_highpage() I agree
that it might help to find arm64 issues we might run into in the fallback.
But the interaction of KASAN config options are not particularly easy to
understand -- and if this would actually break non-arm configs. I'll
have to dig ...
--
Cheers
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-17 18:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-16 22:42 Linux 6.18-rc6 Linus Torvalds
2025-11-17 8:20 ` David Wang
2025-11-17 10:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-17 12:56 ` David Wang
2025-11-17 13:30 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-17 13:45 ` David Wang
2025-11-17 14:08 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-17 15:28 ` David Wang
2025-11-17 16:59 ` Xi Ruoyao
2025-11-17 21:19 ` Joan Bruguera Micó
2025-11-17 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-17 17:53 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-17 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-17 18:24 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) [this message]
2025-11-17 19:17 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-18 1:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 4:13 ` David Wang
2025-11-18 13:55 ` David Wang
2025-11-18 14:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-18 14:33 ` David Wang
2025-11-18 14:44 ` Carlos Llamas
2025-11-18 14:51 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-18 14:53 ` Carlos Llamas
2025-11-18 15:09 ` David Wang
2025-11-18 7:28 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-18 16:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-19 15:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-11-18 3:59 ` Carlos Llamas
2025-11-17 16:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-17 18:13 ` Guenter Roeck
2025-11-18 17:23 ` Stephanie Gawroriski
2025-11-18 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 20:18 ` Stephanie Gawroriski
2025-11-19 9:08 ` Heikki Krogerus
2025-11-19 14:18 ` Stephanie Gawroriski
2025-11-19 15:04 ` Stephanie Gawroriski
2025-11-24 9:50 ` Heikki Krogerus
2025-11-26 16:01 ` Stephanie Gawroriski
2025-11-27 9:53 ` Heikki Krogerus
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