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From: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
To: Ben Horgan <ben.horgan@arm.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: <tony.luck@intel.com>, <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	<james.morse@arm.com>, <babu.moger@amd.com>, <tglx@kernel.org>,
	<mingo@redhat.com>, <bp@alien8.de>, <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	<x86@kernel.org>, <hpa@zytor.com>, <fenghuay@nvidia.com>,
	<tan.shaopeng@fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 5/7] fs/resctrl: Continue counter allocation after failure
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2026 08:38:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0892e8ed-e903-44c9-b0cc-4c4b52cd4fc8@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <96d85349-4e8b-4a22-b31d-06f89685f076@arm.com>

Hi Ben,

On 4/15/26 7:46 AM, Ben Horgan wrote:
> Hi Reinette,
> 
> On 4/15/26 15:27, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>> Hi Ben,
>>
>> On 4/14/26 7:42 AM, Ben Horgan wrote:
>>> On 3/27/26 16:21, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>
>>>> Consider a changelog like below that just focuses on problem being solved
>>>> (but please correct me if you find I am missing the point):
>>>>
>>>> 	In mbm_event mode, with mbm_assign_on_mkdir set to 1, when a user
>>>> 	creates a new CTRL_MON or MON group resctrl attempts to allocate
>>>> 	counters for each of the supported MBM events on each resctrl
>>>> 	domain. As counters are limited, such allocation may fail and
>>>> 	when it does counter allocations for the remaining domains are
>>>> 	skipped even if the domains have available counters.                                                                       
>>>>                                                                                 
>>>> 	Since a counter allocation failure may result in counter allocation
>>>> 	skipped on other domains the user needs to view the resource group's
>>>
>>> skipped -> being skipped
>>>
>>>> 	mbm_L3_assignments files to get an accurate view of counter assignment
>>>> 	in a new resource group and then manually create counters in the skipped
>>>> 	domains	with available counters.                                             
>>>>                                                                                 
>>>> 	Writes to mbm_L3_assignments using the wildcard format, <event>:*=e,            
>>>> 	also skip counter allocation in other domains after a counter allocation      
>>>> 	failure.                                                                        
>>>>                                                                                 
>>>> 	When handling a request to create counters in all domains it is unnecessary
>>>> 	for a counter allocation in one domain to prevent counter allocation in
>>>> 	other domains. Always attempt to allocate all the counters requested.     
>>>
>>> I can use this but how about if I add,
>>>
>>> Skipping counter allocation in subsequent domains after failure makes predicting which
>>> counters will be allocated harder for the user as they need to know the ordering of the
>>> domains as well as the expected failures.
>>
>> I do not see why the user needs to make any predictions with the current implementation.
>> mbm_L3_assignments will always contain accurate information regarding counter assignment, no?
> 
> They can see the result with mbm_L3_assignments. In general, if the user is doing any operation it helps for them to
> know what they can expect from that operation before doing it.

I totally agree. I seem to be missing the goal here. Are you saying that currently it is not clear
what the user can expect when running these commands? I believe that is clarified with the documentation
update in patch #6? 

> 
> Happy to drop the extra sentence if you don't think it adds anything. Making all allocations of multiple counters best
> effort is the main point.

I do not object adding extra sentences but the proposal mentions how user space needs to
predict behaviors and know about kernel internals which I do not believe is required now nor
with planned changes. I really seem to be missing something here so would appreciate if you
could elaborate the goals here.

Reinette

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-15 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-26 17:25 [PATCH v4 0/7] x86,fs/resctrl: Pave the way for MPAM counter assignment Ben Horgan
2026-03-26 17:25 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] fs/resctrl: Tidy up the error path in resctrl_mkdir_event_configs() Ben Horgan
2026-03-27 16:06   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-03-26 17:25 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] x86,fs/resctrl: Make 'event_filter' files read only if they're not configurable Ben Horgan
2026-03-27 16:13   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-03-27 17:15     ` Ben Horgan
2026-03-26 17:25 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] fs/resctrl: Disallow the software controller when MBM counters are assignable Ben Horgan
2026-03-27 16:14   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-03-27 17:24     ` Ben Horgan
2026-03-26 17:25 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] x86,fs/resctrl: Add monitor property 'mbm_cntr_assign_fixed' Ben Horgan
2026-03-27 16:15   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-03-26 17:25 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] fs/resctrl: Continue counter allocation after failure Ben Horgan
2026-03-27 16:21   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-14 14:42     ` Ben Horgan
2026-04-15 14:27       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-15 14:46         ` Ben Horgan
2026-04-15 15:38           ` Reinette Chatre [this message]
2026-04-15 16:31             ` Ben Horgan
2026-04-15 17:28               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-16  8:32                 ` Ben Horgan
2026-03-26 17:25 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] fs/resctrl: Document that automatic counter assignment is best effort Ben Horgan
2026-03-27 16:24   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-14 14:55     ` Ben Horgan
2026-03-26 17:25 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] fs/resctrl: Document tasks file behaviour for task id 0 and idle tasks Ben Horgan
2026-03-27 16:40   ` Reinette Chatre

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