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From: Ben Horgan <ben.horgan@arm.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 13/19] x86/resctrl: Add PLZA state tracking and context switch handling
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2026 09:36:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <08b3568a-c034-4531-8263-e27015306dca@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9ae7909a-dbb1-4d54-a47c-2ffdb4899b64@intel.com>

Hi Reinette,

On 2/23/26 16:38, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Ben,
> 
> On 2/23/26 2:08 AM, Ben Horgan wrote:
>> On 2/20/26 02:53, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
>>> Dedicated global allocations for kernel work, monitoring same for user space and kernel (MPAM)
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 1. User space creates resource and monitoring groups for user tasks:
>>>  	/sys/fs/resctrl <= User space default allocations
>>> 	/sys/fs/resctrl/g1 <= User space allocations g1
>>> 	/sys/fs/resctrl/g1/mon_groups/g1m1 <= User space monitoring group g1m1
>>> 	/sys/fs/resctrl/g1/mon_groups/g1m2 <= User space monitoring group g1m2
>>> 	/sys/fs/resctrl/g2 <= User space allocations g2
>>> 	/sys/fs/resctrl/g2/mon_groups/g2m1 <= User space monitoring group g2m1
>>> 	/sys/fs/resctrl/g2/mon_groups/g2m2 <= User space monitoring group g2m2
>>>
>>> 2. User space creates resource and monitoring groups for kernel work (system has two PMG):
>>> 	/sys/fs/resctrl/kernel <= Kernel space allocations 
>>> 	/sys/fs/resctrl/kernel/mon_data               <= Kernel space monitoring for all of default and g1
>>> 	/sys/fs/resctrl/kernel/mon_groups/kernel_g2   <= Kernel space monitoring for all of g2
>>> 3. Set kernel mode to per_group_assign_ctrl_assign_mon:
>>> 	# echo per_group_assign_ctrl_assign_mon > info/kernel_mode
>>>    - info/kernel_mode_assignment becomes visible and contains
>>> 	# cat info/kernel_mode_assignment
>>> 	//://
>>> 	g1//://
>>> 	g1/g1m1/://
>>> 	g1/g1m2/://
>>> 	g2//://
>>> 	g2/g2m1/://
>>> 	g2/g2m2/://
>>>    - An optimization here may be to have the change to per_group_assign_ctrl_assign_mon mode be implemented
>>>      similar to the change to global_assign_ctrl_assign_mon that initializes a global default. This can
>>>      avoid keeping tasklist_lock for a long time to set all tasks' kernel CLOSID/RMID to default just for
>>>      user space to likely change it.
>>> 4. Set groups to be used for kernel work:
>>> 	# echo '//:kernel//\ng1//:kernel//\ng1/g1m1/:kernel//\ng1/g1m2/:kernel//\ng2//:kernel/kernel_g2/\ng2/g2m1/:kernel/kernel_g2/\ng2/g2m2/:kernel/kernel_g2/\n' > info/kernel_mode_assignment
>>
>> Am I right in thinking that you want this in the info directory to avoid
>> adding files to the CTRL_MON/MON groups?
> 
> I see this file as providing the same capability as you suggested in
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/aYyxAPdTFejzsE42@e134344.arm.com/. The reason why I
> presented this as a single file is not because I am trying to avoid adding
> files to the CTRL_MON/MON groups but because I believe such interface enables
> resctrl to have more flexibility and support more scenarios for optimization.
> 
> As you mentioned in your proposal the solution enables a single write to move
> a task. As I thought through what resctrl needs to do on such write I saw a lot
> of similarities with mongrp_reparent() that loops through all the tasks via
> for_each_process_thread() while holding tasklist_lock. Issues with mongrp_reparent()
> holding tasklist_lock for a long time are described in [1].
> 
> While the single file does not avoid taking tasklist_lock it does give the user the
> ability to set kernel group for multiple user groups with a single write.  When user space
> does so I believe it is possible for resctrl to have an optimization that takes tasklist_lock
> just once and make changes to tasks belonging to all groups while looping through all tasks on
> system just once. With files within the CTRL_MON/MON groups setting kernel group for
> multiple user groups will require multiple writes from user space where each write requires
> looping through tasks while holding tasklist_lock during each loop. From what I learned
> from [1] something like this can be very disruptive to the rest of the system.
> 
> In summary, I see having this single file provide the same capability as the
> on-file-per-CTRL_MON/MON group since user can choose to set kernel group for user
> group one at a time but it also gives more flexibility to resctrl for optimization.
> 
> Nothing is set in stone here. There is still flexibility in this proposal to support
> PARTID and PMG assignment with a single file in each CTRL_MON/MON group if we find that
> it has the more benefits. resctrl can still expose a "per_group_assign_ctrl_assign_mon" mode
> but instead of making  "info/kernel_mode_assignment" visible when it is enabled the control file
> in CTRL_MON/MON groups are made visible ... even in this case resctrl could still add the single
> file later if deemed necessary at that time.
> 
> Considering all this, do you think resctrl should rather start with a file in each
> CTRL_MON/MON group?

From what you say, it sounds like the optimization opportunities granted
by having a single file will be necessary with some usage patterns and
so I'd be happy to start with just the single
"info/kernel_mode_assignment" file. It does mean that you need to
consider more than the current CTRL_MON directory when reading or
writing configuration but I don't see any real problem there.

> 
> Reinette
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CALPaoCh0SbG1+VbbgcxjubE7Cc2Pb6QqhG3NH6X=WwsNfqNjtA@mail.gmail.com/ 

Thanks,

Ben


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-24  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-21 21:12 [RFC PATCH 00/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Support for Global Bandwidth Enforcement and Priviledge Level Zero Association Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 01/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add support for Global Bandwidth Enforcement (GLBE) Babu Moger
2026-02-09 18:44   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11  1:07     ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-11 16:54       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 21:18         ` Babu Moger
2026-02-12  3:51           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-12 19:09             ` Babu Moger
2026-02-13  0:05               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-13  1:51                 ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-13 16:17                   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-13 23:14                     ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-14  0:01                       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-16 16:05                         ` Babu Moger
2026-02-20 10:07             ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-20 18:39               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-23  9:29                 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-21  0:12               ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-23 13:21             ` Fenghua Yu
2026-02-23 17:38               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-23 13:21             ` Fenghua Yu
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 02/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add the resource for Global Memory Bandwidth Allocation Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 03/19] fs/resctrl: Add new interface max_bandwidth Babu Moger
2026-02-06 23:58   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-09 23:52     ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 04/19] fs/resctrl: Add the documentation for Global Memory Bandwidth Allocation Babu Moger
2026-02-03  0:00   ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-03 16:38     ` Babu Moger
2026-02-09 16:32       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-10 19:44         ` Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 05/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add support for Global Slow Memory Bandwidth Allocation (GSMBA) Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 06/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add the resource for Global Slow Memory Bandwidth Enforcement(GLSBE) Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 07/19] fs/resctrl: Add the documentation for Global Slow Memory Bandwidth Allocation Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 08/19] x86/resctrl: Support Privilege-Level Zero Association (PLZA) Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 09/19] x86/resctrl: Add plza_capable in rdt_resource data structure Babu Moger
2026-02-11 15:19   ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-11 16:54     ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 17:48       ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-13 15:50     ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 10/19] fs/resctrl: Expose plza_capable via control info file Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 11/19] resctrl: Introduce PLZA static key enable/disable helpers Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 12/19] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for PLZA configuration Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 13/19] x86/resctrl: Add PLZA state tracking and context switch handling Babu Moger
2026-01-27 22:30   ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-28 16:01     ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-28 17:12       ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-28 17:41         ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-28 17:44           ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-28 19:17             ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-10 16:17             ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-10 18:04               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 16:40                 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-11 19:46                   ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-11 22:22                   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-12 13:55                     ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-12 18:37                       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-16 15:18                         ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-17 18:51                           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-17 21:44                             ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-17 22:37                               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-17 22:52                                 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-17 23:55                                   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-18 16:44                                     ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-19 17:03                                       ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-19 17:45                                         ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-20  8:21                                         ` Drew Fustini
2026-02-19 17:33                                       ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-20  2:53                                       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-20 22:44                                         ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-23 17:12                                           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-23 22:35                                             ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-23 23:13                                               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-24 19:37                                                 ` Babu Moger
2026-02-23 10:08                                         ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-23 16:38                                           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-24  9:36                                             ` Ben Horgan [this message]
2026-02-24 16:13                                               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-19 11:06                               ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-19 18:12                                 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-19 18:36                                   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-19 10:21                             ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-19 18:14                               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-23  9:48                                 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-13 16:37               ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-13 17:02                 ` Luck, Tony
2026-02-16 19:24                   ` Babu Moger
2026-02-14  0:10                 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-16 15:41                   ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-16 22:52                     ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-17 15:56                       ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-17 16:38                         ` Babu Moger
2026-02-18  9:54                           ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-18  6:22                         ` Stephane Eranian
2026-02-18  9:35                           ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-19 10:27                             ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-16 22:36                   ` Moger, Babu
2026-02-12 10:00       ` Ben Horgan
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 14/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Add the functionality to configure PLZA Babu Moger
2026-01-29 19:13   ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-29 19:53     ` Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 15/19] fs/resctrl: Introduce PLZA attribute in rdtgroup interface Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 16/19] fs/resctrl: Implement rdtgroup_plza_write() to configure PLZA in a group Babu Moger
2026-01-28 22:03   ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-29 18:54     ` Luck, Tony
2026-01-29 19:31       ` Babu Moger
2026-01-29 19:42     ` Babu Moger
2026-02-10  0:05   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 23:10     ` Moger, Babu
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 17/19] fs/resctrl: Update PLZA configuration when cpu_mask changes Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 18/19] x86/resctrl: Refactor show_rdt_tasks() to support PLZA task matching Babu Moger
2026-01-21 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 19/19] fs/resctrl: Add per-task PLZA enable support via rdtgroup Babu Moger
2026-02-03 19:58 ` [RFC PATCH 00/19] x86,fs/resctrl: Support for Global Bandwidth Enforcement and Priviledge Level Zero Association Luck, Tony
2026-02-10  0:27   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11  0:40     ` Drew Fustini

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