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From: Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Li, Xin3" <xin3.li@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"hpa@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>, "Christopherson,,
	Sean" <seanjc@google.com>, Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH 5/6] KVM: x86/VMX: add kvm_vmx_reinject_nmi_irq() for NMI/IRQ reinjection
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 16:35:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0b5798d6-aa1d-8ad8-b129-9cffdfd4e5da@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y25a0Z2tOMWYZs4j@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 11/11/2022 14:23, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 01:48:26PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 11/11/22 13:19, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 01:04:27PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>> On Intel you can optionally make it hold onto IRQs, but NMIs are always
>>>> eaten by the VMEXIT and have to be reinjected manually.
>>> That 'optionally' thing worries me -- as in, KVM is currently
>>> opting-out?
>> Yes, because "If the “process posted interrupts” VM-execution control is 1,
>> the “acknowledge interrupt on exit” VM-exit control is 1" (SDM 26.2.1.1,
>> checks on VM-Execution Control Fields).  Ipse dixit.  Posted interrupts are
>> available and used on all processors since I think Ivy Bridge.

On server SKUs.  Client only got "virtual interrupt processing" fairly
recently IIRC, which is the CPU-side property which matters.

> (imagine the non-coc compliant reaction here)
>
> So instead of fixing it, they made it worse :-(
>
> And now FRED is arguably making it worse again, and people wonder why I
> hate virt...

The only FRED-compatible fix is to send a self-NMI, because because you
may need a CSL change too.

VT-x *does* hold the NMI latch (for VMEXIT_REASON NMI), so it's self-NMI
and then enable_nmi()s.

Except the IRET to self won't work - it will need to be ERETS-to-self. 
Which I think is fine.

But what isn't fine is the fact that a self-NMI doesn't deliver
synchronously, so you need to wait until it is pending, before enabling
NMIs.  (Well, actually you need to ensure that it's definitely delivered
before re-entering the VM).

And I'm totally out of ideas here...

~Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-11 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-10  6:15 [RESEND PATCH 0/6] x86/traps,VMX: implement software based NMI/IRQ dispatch for VMX NMI/IRQ reinjection Xin Li
2022-11-10  6:15 ` [RESEND PATCH 1/6] x86/traps: let common_interrupt() handle IRQ_MOVE_CLEANUP_VECTOR Xin Li
2022-11-10 18:59   ` Ashok Raj
2022-11-10 22:09     ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-10  6:15 ` [RESEND PATCH 2/6] x86/traps: add a system interrupt table for system interrupt dispatch Xin Li
2022-11-10  8:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-10 19:55     ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-10 20:36       ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-10 21:12         ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-11-10 23:00           ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-11  0:08             ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-11-11  3:03               ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-11  8:58         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-11  1:12       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-11  3:54         ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-11  8:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-11 22:07       ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-11-12  9:47         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-10  6:15 ` [RESEND PATCH 3/6] x86/traps: add install_system_interrupt_handler() Xin Li
2022-11-10  6:15 ` [RESEND PATCH 4/6] x86/traps: add external_interrupt() to dispatch external interrupts Xin Li
2022-11-10 16:24   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-10 18:02     ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-10 20:10       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-10  6:15 ` [RESEND PATCH 5/6] KVM: x86/VMX: add kvm_vmx_reinject_nmi_irq() for NMI/IRQ reinjection Xin Li
2022-11-10  9:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-10 20:53     ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-11  9:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-11 12:04         ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-11-11 12:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-11 12:48             ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-11-11 14:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-11 16:35                 ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2022-11-11 22:22                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-11-12  0:08                     ` Andrew Cooper
2022-11-11 18:06                 ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-11 19:33                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-12  6:35                     ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-14  4:39                     ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-14  9:08                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-15  7:50                         ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-15  9:17                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-17  3:37                             ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-17 15:51                               ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-18  0:05                                 ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-22 13:00                                   ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-22 20:52                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-23  8:31                                       ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-23 20:42                                         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-24  3:40                                           ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-28 16:26                                             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-24  9:46                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-28 19:05                                             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-23  9:16                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-23 19:18                                         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-11 22:15                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-11-10  6:15 ` [RESEND PATCH 6/6] x86/traps: remove unused NMI entry exc_nmi_noist() Xin Li

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