[PATCH v1 0/3] spidev: introduce trivial abb sensor device

[PATCH v1 0/3] spidev: introduce trivial abb sensor device

[Heiko Schocher]

This series introduces the changes needed for trivial spi
based sensors from ABB, currently operated from userspace.

The last patch adds the spidevices to the DTS files, already
in mainline.

make dtbs_check showed no errors/warnings for the dts files

  DTC [C] arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx8mp-aristainetos3-adpismarc.dtb
  DTC [C] arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx8mp-aristainetos3-helios.dtb
  DTC     arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx8mp-aristainetos3-helios-lvds.dtbo
  DTC [C] arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx8mp-aristainetos3-proton2s.dtb



Heiko Schocher (3):
  dt-bindings: trivial-devices: Document ABB sensors
  spi: spidev: Add an entry for the ABB spi sensors
  arm64: dts: imx8mp: add ABB spi sensors

 .../devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml  |  2 ++
 .../freescale/imx8mp-aristainetos3-helios.dts | 28 +++++++++++++++++++
 .../imx8mp-aristainetos3-proton2s.dts         | 22 +++++++++++++++
 drivers/spi/spidev.c                          |  2 ++
 4 files changed, 54 insertions(+)

-- 
2.20.1

base-commit: 3668990919df7a8df60ab1f39ec95f59434b68ec

[PATCH v1 1/3] dt-bindings: trivial-devices: Document ABB sensors

[Heiko Schocher]

Add documentation for spi based ABB sensors, which are
currently operated from userspace.

Signed-off-by: Heiko Schocher <hs@denx.de>
---

 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml | 2 ++
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml
index 27930708ccd5..25260c2b81df 100644
--- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml
@@ -30,6 +30,8 @@ properties:
     items:
       # Entries are sorted alphanumerically by the compatible
       - enum:
+            # ABB register based spi sensors
+          - abb,spi-sensor
             # Acbel fsg032 power supply
           - acbel,fsg032
             # SMBus/I2C Digital Temperature Sensor in 6-Pin SOT with SMBus Alert and Over Temperature Pin
-- 
2.20.1

[PATCH v1 2/3] spi: spidev: Add an entry for the ABB spi sensors

[Heiko Schocher]

This sensors are currently controlled from userspace, ideally
we will add full drivers in the future.

Signed-off-by: Heiko Schocher <hs@denx.de>
---

 drivers/spi/spidev.c | 2 ++
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)

diff --git a/drivers/spi/spidev.c b/drivers/spi/spidev.c
index 6108959c28d9..5300c942a2a4 100644
--- a/drivers/spi/spidev.c
+++ b/drivers/spi/spidev.c
@@ -703,6 +703,7 @@ static const struct class spidev_class = {
  * spidev_dt_ids array below. Both arrays are kept in the same ordering.
  */
 static const struct spi_device_id spidev_spi_ids[] = {
+	{ .name = /* abb */ "spi-sensor" },
 	{ .name = /* cisco */ "spi-petra" },
 	{ .name = /* dh */ "dhcom-board" },
 	{ .name = /* elgin */ "jg10309-01" },
@@ -735,6 +736,7 @@ static int spidev_of_check(struct device *dev)
 }
 
 static const struct of_device_id spidev_dt_ids[] = {
+	{ .compatible = "abb,spi-sensor", .data = &spidev_of_check },
 	{ .compatible = "cisco,spi-petra", .data = &spidev_of_check },
 	{ .compatible = "dh,dhcom-board", .data = &spidev_of_check },
 	{ .compatible = "elgin,jg10309-01", .data = &spidev_of_check },
-- 
2.20.1

[PATCH v1 3/3] arm64: dts: imx8mp: add ABB spi sensors

[Heiko Schocher]

add for the spi busses the ABB sensor trivial compatible
entry, so they can be accessed from userspace.

Signed-off-by: Heiko Schocher <hs@denx.de>
---

 .../freescale/imx8mp-aristainetos3-helios.dts | 28 +++++++++++++++++++
 .../imx8mp-aristainetos3-proton2s.dts         | 22 +++++++++++++++
 2 files changed, 50 insertions(+)

diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx8mp-aristainetos3-helios.dts b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx8mp-aristainetos3-helios.dts
index a4e649a8239b..b6ba6229acd7 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx8mp-aristainetos3-helios.dts
+++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx8mp-aristainetos3-helios.dts
@@ -52,6 +52,34 @@
 	};
 };
 
+&ecspi1 {
+	spidev0_0: spi@0 {
+		reg = <0>;
+		compatible = "abb,spi-sensor";
+		spi-max-frequency = <54000000>;
+	};
+
+	spidev0_1: spi@1 {
+		compatible = "abb,spi-sensor";
+		reg = <1>;
+		spi-max-frequency = <54000000>;
+	};
+};
+
+&ecspi2 {
+	spidev1_0: spi@0 {
+		reg = <0>;
+		compatible = "abb,spi-sensor";
+		spi-max-frequency = <54000000>;
+	};
+
+	spidev1_1: spi@1 {
+		reg = <1>;
+		compatible = "abb,spi-sensor";
+		spi-max-frequency = <54000000>;
+	};
+};
+
 &ethphy1 {
 	status = "disabled";
 };
diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx8mp-aristainetos3-proton2s.dts b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx8mp-aristainetos3-proton2s.dts
index 2a736dbe96b4..e804688b2e74 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx8mp-aristainetos3-proton2s.dts
+++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx8mp-aristainetos3-proton2s.dts
@@ -28,6 +28,28 @@
 	};
 };
 
+&ecspi1 {
+	spidev0_0: spi@0 {
+		compatible = "abb,spi-sensor";
+		reg = <0>;
+		spi-max-frequency = <54000000>;
+	};
+
+	spidev0_1: spi@1 {
+		compatible = "abb,spi-sensor";
+		reg = <1>;
+		spi-max-frequency = <54000000>;
+	};
+};
+
+&ecspi2 {
+	spidev1_0: spi@0 {
+		compatible = "abb,spi-sensor";
+		reg = <0>;
+		spi-max-frequency = <54000000>;
+	};
+};
+
 &ethphy1 {
 	status = "disabled";
 };
-- 
2.20.1

Re: [PATCH v1 1/3] dt-bindings: trivial-devices: Document ABB sensors

[Rob Herring]

On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 08:33:52AM +0200, Heiko Schocher wrote:
> Add documentation for spi based ABB sensors, which are
> currently operated from userspace.

What is userspace? That has nothing to do with bindings.

Please provide some details about this h/w and convince me it is 
trivial.

> 
> Signed-off-by: Heiko Schocher <hs@denx.de>
> ---
> 
>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml | 2 ++
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml
> index 27930708ccd5..25260c2b81df 100644
> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml
> @@ -30,6 +30,8 @@ properties:
>      items:
>        # Entries are sorted alphanumerically by the compatible
>        - enum:
> +            # ABB register based spi sensors
> +          - abb,spi-sensor
>              # Acbel fsg032 power supply
>            - acbel,fsg032
>              # SMBus/I2C Digital Temperature Sensor in 6-Pin SOT with SMBus Alert and Over Temperature Pin
> -- 
> 2.20.1
> 

Re: [PATCH v1 1/3] dt-bindings: trivial-devices: Document ABB sensors

[Guenter Roeck]

On 7/19/25 19:11, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 08:33:52AM +0200, Heiko Schocher wrote:
>> Add documentation for spi based ABB sensors, which are
>> currently operated from userspace.
> 
> What is userspace? That has nothing to do with bindings.
> 

Taking one step further back ... what are "spi based ABB sensors" ?

Guenter

> Please provide some details about this h/w and convince me it is
> trivial.
> 
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Heiko Schocher <hs@denx.de>
>> ---
>>
>>   Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml | 2 ++
>>   1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml
>> index 27930708ccd5..25260c2b81df 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml
>> @@ -30,6 +30,8 @@ properties:
>>       items:
>>         # Entries are sorted alphanumerically by the compatible
>>         - enum:
>> +            # ABB register based spi sensors
>> +          - abb,spi-sensor
>>               # Acbel fsg032 power supply
>>             - acbel,fsg032
>>               # SMBus/I2C Digital Temperature Sensor in 6-Pin SOT with SMBus Alert and Over Temperature Pin
>> -- 
>> 2.20.1
>>

Re: [PATCH v1 1/3] dt-bindings: trivial-devices: Document ABB sensors

[Heiko Schocher]

Hi Guenther, Rob,

On 20.07.25 05:25, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On 7/19/25 19:11, Rob Herring wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 08:33:52AM +0200, Heiko Schocher wrote:
>>> Add documentation for spi based ABB sensors, which are
>>> currently operated from userspace.
>>
>> What is userspace? That has nothing to do with bindings.
>>
> 
> Taking one step further back ... what are "spi based ABB sensors" ?
> 
> Guenter
> 
>> Please provide some details about this h/w and convince me it is
>> trivial.

This sensors are fully controlled through spidev driver, with a simple
register based interface and they have no other connections as the SPI
lines, so they only need a compatible entry.

bye,
Heiko


>>
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Heiko Schocher <hs@denx.de>
>>> ---
>>>
>>>   Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml | 2 ++
>>>   1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml 
>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml
>>> index 27930708ccd5..25260c2b81df 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml
>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml
>>> @@ -30,6 +30,8 @@ properties:
>>>       items:
>>>         # Entries are sorted alphanumerically by the compatible
>>>         - enum:
>>> +            # ABB register based spi sensors
>>> +          - abb,spi-sensor
>>>               # Acbel fsg032 power supply
>>>             - acbel,fsg032
>>>               # SMBus/I2C Digital Temperature Sensor in 6-Pin SOT with SMBus Alert and Over 
>>> Temperature Pin
>>> -- 
>>> 2.20.1
>>>

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Re: (subset) [PATCH v1 0/3] spidev: introduce trivial abb sensor device

[Mark Brown]

On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 08:33:51 +0200, Heiko Schocher wrote:
> This series introduces the changes needed for trivial spi
> based sensors from ABB, currently operated from userspace.
> 
> The last patch adds the spidevices to the DTS files, already
> in mainline.
> 
> make dtbs_check showed no errors/warnings for the dts files
> 
> [...]

Applied to

   https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/broonie/spi.git for-next

Thanks!

[1/3] dt-bindings: trivial-devices: Document ABB sensors
      commit: aad2f87cbcab56b322109d26d7b11842a09df91f
[2/3] spi: spidev: Add an entry for the ABB spi sensors
      commit: d60f7cab7c04944a79af16caa43c141e780a59c6

All being well this means that it will be integrated into the linux-next
tree (usually sometime in the next 24 hours) and sent to Linus during
the next merge window (or sooner if it is a bug fix), however if
problems are discovered then the patch may be dropped or reverted.

You may get further e-mails resulting from automated or manual testing
and review of the tree, please engage with people reporting problems and
send followup patches addressing any issues that are reported if needed.

If any updates are required or you are submitting further changes they
should be sent as incremental updates against current git, existing
patches will not be replaced.

Please add any relevant lists and maintainers to the CCs when replying
to this mail.

Thanks,
Mark

Re: (subset) [PATCH v1 0/3] spidev: introduce trivial abb sensor device

[Krzysztof Kozlowski]

On 21/07/2025 17:56, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 08:33:51 +0200, Heiko Schocher wrote:
>> This series introduces the changes needed for trivial spi
>> based sensors from ABB, currently operated from userspace.
>>
>> The last patch adds the spidevices to the DTS files, already
>> in mainline.
>>
>> make dtbs_check showed no errors/warnings for the dts files
>>
>> [...]
> 
> Applied to
> 
>    https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/broonie/spi.git for-next
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> [1/3] dt-bindings: trivial-devices: Document ABB sensors
>       commit: aad2f87cbcab56b322109d26d7b11842a09df91f
> [2/3] spi: spidev: Add an entry for the ABB spi sensors
>       commit: d60f7cab7c04944a79af16caa43c141e780a59c6
> 


That's unexpected, Mark. Patches received two objections/comments and I
don't think discussion was resolved.

ABB is huge company, probably making hundreds or more of sensors. The
patchset basically claims that all of them work with spidev. It does not
providing any model names or details, so it seems really incomplete to
call them trivial devices.

Best regards,
Krzysztof

Re: (subset) [PATCH v1 0/3] spidev: introduce trivial abb sensor device

[Mark Brown]

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On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 06:24:55PM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 21/07/2025 17:56, Mark Brown wrote:

> > [1/3] dt-bindings: trivial-devices: Document ABB sensors
> >       commit: aad2f87cbcab56b322109d26d7b11842a09df91f
> > [2/3] spi: spidev: Add an entry for the ABB spi sensors
> >       commit: d60f7cab7c04944a79af16caa43c141e780a59c6

> That's unexpected, Mark. Patches received two objections/comments and I
> don't think discussion was resolved.

Oh, sorry - I'd missed those (possibly due to only being CCed on part of
the series).  I guess I'll drop this then.

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Re: (subset) [PATCH v1 0/3] spidev: introduce trivial abb sensor device

[Heiko Schocher]

Hello Krzysztof,

On 21.07.25 18:24, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 21/07/2025 17:56, Mark Brown wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 08:33:51 +0200, Heiko Schocher wrote:
>>> This series introduces the changes needed for trivial spi
>>> based sensors from ABB, currently operated from userspace.
>>>
>>> The last patch adds the spidevices to the DTS files, already
>>> in mainline.
>>>
>>> make dtbs_check showed no errors/warnings for the dts files
>>>
>>> [...]
>>
>> Applied to
>>
>>     https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/broonie/spi.git for-next
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> [1/3] dt-bindings: trivial-devices: Document ABB sensors
>>        commit: aad2f87cbcab56b322109d26d7b11842a09df91f
>> [2/3] spi: spidev: Add an entry for the ABB spi sensors
>>        commit: d60f7cab7c04944a79af16caa43c141e780a59c6
>>
> 
> 
> That's unexpected, Mark. Patches received two objections/comments and I
> don't think discussion was resolved.
> 
> ABB is huge company, probably making hundreds or more of sensors. The
> patchset basically claims that all of them work with spidev. It does not
> providing any model names or details, so it seems really incomplete to
> call them trivial devices.

I do not know how many different sensors they have, nor if that department can
speak for the whole company...

What I have as information is:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-spi/2477dc64-92a0-9dc9-d168-56646d0d796e@denx.de/

and I get no more information about them currently. May I should
add some sort of trivial into compatible name? Something like

"abb,spi-trivial-sensor"
or
"abb,spidev-trivial-sensor"

which makes it clearer, that only ABB trivial sensor, controlled through spidev
driver, is connected here?

Looking into definiton of "trivial devices" in
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trivial-devices.yaml
"""
description: |
   This is a list of trivial I2C and SPI devices that have simple device tree
   bindings, consisting only of a compatible field, an address and possibly an
   interrupt line.
"""

which fits exactly, as they even have nothing more than the SPI lines
connected to the carrier board(s).

bye,
Heiko
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Re: (subset) [PATCH v1 0/3] spidev: introduce trivial abb sensor device

[Guenter Roeck]

On 7/21/25 21:05, Heiko Schocher wrote:
> Hello Krzysztof,
> 
> On 21.07.25 18:24, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 21/07/2025 17:56, Mark Brown wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 08:33:51 +0200, Heiko Schocher wrote:
>>>> This series introduces the changes needed for trivial spi
>>>> based sensors from ABB, currently operated from userspace.
>>>>
>>>> The last patch adds the spidevices to the DTS files, already
>>>> in mainline.
>>>>
>>>> make dtbs_check showed no errors/warnings for the dts files
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Applied to
>>>
>>>     https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/broonie/spi.git for-next
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> [1/3] dt-bindings: trivial-devices: Document ABB sensors
>>>        commit: aad2f87cbcab56b322109d26d7b11842a09df91f
>>> [2/3] spi: spidev: Add an entry for the ABB spi sensors
>>>        commit: d60f7cab7c04944a79af16caa43c141e780a59c6
>>>
>>
>>
>> That's unexpected, Mark. Patches received two objections/comments and I
>> don't think discussion was resolved.
>>
>> ABB is huge company, probably making hundreds or more of sensors. The
>> patchset basically claims that all of them work with spidev. It does not
>> providing any model names or details, so it seems really incomplete to
>> call them trivial devices.
> 
> I do not know how many different sensors they have, nor if that department can
> speak for the whole company...
> 
> What I have as information is:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-spi/2477dc64-92a0-9dc9-d168-56646d0d796e@denx.de/
> 
> and I get no more information about them currently. May I should
> add some sort of trivial into compatible name? Something like
> 
> "abb,spi-trivial-sensor"
> or
> "abb,spidev-trivial-sensor"
> 
> which makes it clearer, that only ABB trivial sensor, controlled through spidev
> driver, is connected here?
> 

FWIW, I always thought that devicetree is not supposed to contain such generic
information. Is it even appropriate to list something like this in devicetree
in the first place ?

If so, what prevents anyone from submitting hundreds of
"<company>,spidev-trivial-<device-type>" entries, using the same line of argument ?

Guenter

Re: (subset) [PATCH v1 0/3] spidev: introduce trivial abb sensor device

[Jonathan Cameron]

On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 21:58:10 -0700
Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:

> On 7/21/25 21:05, Heiko Schocher wrote:
> > Hello Krzysztof,
> > 
> > On 21.07.25 18:24, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:  
> >> On 21/07/2025 17:56, Mark Brown wrote:  
> >>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 08:33:51 +0200, Heiko Schocher wrote:  
> >>>> This series introduces the changes needed for trivial spi
> >>>> based sensors from ABB, currently operated from userspace.
> >>>>
> >>>> The last patch adds the spidevices to the DTS files, already
> >>>> in mainline.
> >>>>
> >>>> make dtbs_check showed no errors/warnings for the dts files
> >>>>
> >>>> [...]  
> >>>
> >>> Applied to
> >>>
> >>>     https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/broonie/spi.git for-next
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> [1/3] dt-bindings: trivial-devices: Document ABB sensors
> >>>        commit: aad2f87cbcab56b322109d26d7b11842a09df91f
> >>> [2/3] spi: spidev: Add an entry for the ABB spi sensors
> >>>        commit: d60f7cab7c04944a79af16caa43c141e780a59c6
> >>>  
> >>
> >>
> >> That's unexpected, Mark. Patches received two objections/comments and I
> >> don't think discussion was resolved.
> >>
> >> ABB is huge company, probably making hundreds or more of sensors. The
> >> patchset basically claims that all of them work with spidev. It does not
> >> providing any model names or details, so it seems really incomplete to
> >> call them trivial devices.  
> > 
> > I do not know how many different sensors they have, nor if that department can
> > speak for the whole company...
> > 
> > What I have as information is:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-spi/2477dc64-92a0-9dc9-d168-56646d0d796e@denx.de/
> > 
> > and I get no more information about them currently. May I should
> > add some sort of trivial into compatible name? Something like
> > 
> > "abb,spi-trivial-sensor"
> > or
> > "abb,spidev-trivial-sensor"
> > 
> > which makes it clearer, that only ABB trivial sensor, controlled through spidev
> > driver, is connected here?
> >   
> 
> FWIW, I always thought that devicetree is not supposed to contain such generic
> information. Is it even appropriate to list something like this in devicetree
> in the first place ?
> 
> If so, what prevents anyone from submitting hundreds of
> "<company>,spidev-trivial-<device-type>" entries, using the same line of argument ?

Agreed.  These should have separate compatibles based on what any OS etc
might want to bind to them.  Just because their model in Linux is spidev etc
that shouldn't mean a generic ID is appropriate.

Can we at least have some examples to motivate the discussion?

Jonathan

> 
> Guenter
> 

Re: (subset) [PATCH v1 0/3] spidev: introduce trivial abb sensor device

[Krzysztof Kozlowski]

On 22/07/2025 06:05, Heiko Schocher wrote:
> Hello Krzysztof,
> 
> On 21.07.25 18:24, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 21/07/2025 17:56, Mark Brown wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 08:33:51 +0200, Heiko Schocher wrote:
>>>> This series introduces the changes needed for trivial spi
>>>> based sensors from ABB, currently operated from userspace.
>>>>
>>>> The last patch adds the spidevices to the DTS files, already
>>>> in mainline.
>>>>
>>>> make dtbs_check showed no errors/warnings for the dts files
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Applied to
>>>
>>>     https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/broonie/spi.git for-next
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> [1/3] dt-bindings: trivial-devices: Document ABB sensors
>>>        commit: aad2f87cbcab56b322109d26d7b11842a09df91f
>>> [2/3] spi: spidev: Add an entry for the ABB spi sensors
>>>        commit: d60f7cab7c04944a79af16caa43c141e780a59c6
>>>
>>
>>
>> That's unexpected, Mark. Patches received two objections/comments and I
>> don't think discussion was resolved.
>>
>> ABB is huge company, probably making hundreds or more of sensors. The
>> patchset basically claims that all of them work with spidev. It does not
>> providing any model names or details, so it seems really incomplete to
>> call them trivial devices.
> 
> I do not know how many different sensors they have, nor if that department can
> speak for the whole company...

Considering how big company is, they could have 1 or 1000 sensors.

> 
> What I have as information is:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-spi/2477dc64-92a0-9dc9-d168-56646d0d796e@denx.de/
> 
> and I get no more information about them currently. May I should
> add some sort of trivial into compatible name? Something like
> 
> "abb,spi-trivial-sensor"
> or
> "abb,spidev-trivial-sensor"

No, you need model numbers.

> 
> which makes it clearer, that only ABB trivial sensor, controlled through spidev
> driver, is connected here?

No, what is trivial? Which one is trivial and which one is not? How one
judges that one sensor should go here and other should not?


Best regards,
Krzysztof

Re: (subset) [PATCH v1 0/3] spidev: introduce trivial abb sensor device

[Heiko Schocher]

Hello Jonathan,

On 22.07.25 12:20, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 21:58:10 -0700
> Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/21/25 21:05, Heiko Schocher wrote:
>>> Hello Krzysztof,
>>>
>>> On 21.07.25 18:24, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>> On 21/07/2025 17:56, Mark Brown wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 08:33:51 +0200, Heiko Schocher wrote:
>>>>>> This series introduces the changes needed for trivial spi
>>>>>> based sensors from ABB, currently operated from userspace.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The last patch adds the spidevices to the DTS files, already
>>>>>> in mainline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> make dtbs_check showed no errors/warnings for the dts files
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> Applied to
>>>>>
>>>>>      https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/broonie/spi.git for-next
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> [1/3] dt-bindings: trivial-devices: Document ABB sensors
>>>>>         commit: aad2f87cbcab56b322109d26d7b11842a09df91f
>>>>> [2/3] spi: spidev: Add an entry for the ABB spi sensors
>>>>>         commit: d60f7cab7c04944a79af16caa43c141e780a59c6
>>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's unexpected, Mark. Patches received two objections/comments and I
>>>> don't think discussion was resolved.
>>>>
>>>> ABB is huge company, probably making hundreds or more of sensors. The
>>>> patchset basically claims that all of them work with spidev. It does not
>>>> providing any model names or details, so it seems really incomplete to
>>>> call them trivial devices.
>>>
>>> I do not know how many different sensors they have, nor if that department can
>>> speak for the whole company...
>>>
>>> What I have as information is:
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-spi/2477dc64-92a0-9dc9-d168-56646d0d796e@denx.de/
>>>
>>> and I get no more information about them currently. May I should
>>> add some sort of trivial into compatible name? Something like
>>>
>>> "abb,spi-trivial-sensor"
>>> or
>>> "abb,spidev-trivial-sensor"
>>>
>>> which makes it clearer, that only ABB trivial sensor, controlled through spidev
>>> driver, is connected here?
>>>    
>>
>> FWIW, I always thought that devicetree is not supposed to contain such generic
>> information. Is it even appropriate to list something like this in devicetree
>> in the first place ?
>>
>> If so, what prevents anyone from submitting hundreds of
>> "<company>,spidev-trivial-<device-type>" entries, using the same line of argument ?
> 
> Agreed.  These should have separate compatibles based on what any OS etc
> might want to bind to them.  Just because their model in Linux is spidev etc
> that shouldn't mean a generic ID is appropriate.
> 
> Can we at least have some examples to motivate the discussion?

I am sorry, I get no more information about the sensors... even I do
not know the count of variants. What I can say is, that this sensors
measure gases, and are only used "internal" on the aristainetos3 carriers.

So a proposal would be:

# ABB gas sensor on aristainetos3 carriers
compatible "abb,aristainetos-gas-sensor"

bye,
Heiko
> Jonathan
> 
>>
>> Guenter
>>

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