From: Artem Bityutskiy <artem.bityutskiy@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Patryk Wlazlyn <patryk.wlazlyn@linux.intel.com>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com,
len.brown@intel.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] x86/smp native_play_dead: Prefer cpuidle_play_dead() over mwait_play_dead()
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:44:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0ecea0e5be59e63b7827f4db368f2aa3322fb71d.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241112121843.GF6497@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Tue, 2024-11-12 at 13:18 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> But on Intel we really don't want HLT, and had that MWAIT, but that has
> real problems with KEXEC. And I don't think we can rely on INTEL_IDLE=y.
If INTEL_IDLE is not set, then we'll just use existing mwait creation algorithm
in 'mwait_play_dead()', which works too, just not ideal.
> Anyway, ideally x86 would grow a new instruction to offline a CPU, both
> MWAIT and HLT have problems vs non-maskable interrupts.
... snip ...
> But as said, we need a new instruction.
FYI, I already started discussing a special "gimme the deepest C-state" mwait
hint - just a constant like 0xFF. CPUID leaf 5 has many reserved bits, one could
be used for enumeration of this feature.
But this is just a quick idea so far, and informal discussions so far.
Artem.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-12 12:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-08 12:29 [PATCH v3 0/3] SRF: Fix offline CPU preventing pc6 entry Patryk Wlazlyn
2024-11-08 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] x86/smp: Allow calling mwait_play_dead with arbitrary hint Patryk Wlazlyn
2024-11-08 16:03 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-12 10:54 ` Patryk Wlazlyn
2024-11-08 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] x86/smp native_play_dead: Prefer cpuidle_play_dead() over mwait_play_dead() Patryk Wlazlyn
2024-11-08 16:14 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-12 10:55 ` Patryk Wlazlyn
2024-11-12 11:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-12 12:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-11-12 12:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-12 12:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-11-12 12:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-11-12 13:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-12 14:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-11-12 15:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-12 16:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-11-12 12:44 ` Artem Bityutskiy [this message]
2024-11-12 14:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-14 12:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-15 1:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-11-15 10:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-15 15:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-11-12 13:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-11-12 14:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-12 15:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-11-13 11:41 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-11-13 16:14 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-14 5:06 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-11-13 16:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-13 16:27 ` Wysocki, Rafael J
2024-11-14 11:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-11-14 12:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-14 17:36 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-11-14 17:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-11-14 11:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-14 17:24 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-11-15 10:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-25 5:45 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-11-08 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] intel_idle: Provide enter_dead() handler for SRF Patryk Wlazlyn
2024-11-08 16:21 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-12 10:57 ` Patryk Wlazlyn
2024-11-12 11:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-11-12 16:07 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-12 19:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-11-12 19:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-11-08 22:12 ` kernel test robot
2024-11-08 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] SRF: Fix offline CPU preventing pc6 entry Dave Hansen
2024-11-12 11:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-12 15:43 ` Patryk Wlazlyn
2024-11-13 1:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-11-14 17:13 ` Patryk Wlazlyn
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