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From: Tonu Samuel <tonu@please.do.not.remove.this.spam.ee>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9
Date: 17 Sep 2001 18:25:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1000722338.14005.0.camel@x153.internalnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9o1dev$23l$1@penguin.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0109160031500.7740-100000@flashdance>  <9o1dev$23l$1@penguin.transmeta.com>

On 16 Sep 2001 05:31:11 +0000, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> Also note that the amount of "swap used" is totally meaningless in
> 2.4.x. The 2.4.x kernel will _allocate_ the swap backing store much
> earlier than 2.2.x, but that doesn't actuall ymean that it does any of
> the IO. Indeed, allocating the swap backing store just means that the
> swap pages are then kept track of, so that they can be aged along with
> other stores.

Problem still exists and persists. Not long time ago man from Yahoo
described well case when change from 2.2.19 to 2.4.x caused performance
problems. On 2.2.19 everything ran fine. They have MySQL running+did
backups from disk. After upgrade to 2.4.x MySQL performance felt down on
backup time. They investigated stuff and found that MySQL daemon gets
swapped out in the middle of usage to make room for buffers. In summary:
this made both sql and backup double slow. Even increasing memory from
1G->2G didn't helped. Finally they disabled swap at all and problem
lost.

If you do not want to change it back as it was in 2.2.x then would be
good if this is tunable somehow. 
 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-09-16 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-15 22:43 broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9 Peter Magnusson
2001-09-15 23:50 ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-16  5:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16  8:45   ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-17 10:25   ` Tonu Samuel [this message]
2001-09-16 16:47     ` Jeremy Zawodny
2001-09-16 18:36       ` Alan Cox
2001-09-16 19:38         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16 18:34     ` vm rewrite ready [Re: broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9] Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-16 19:07       ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 15:19         ` broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9 Phillip Susi
2001-09-16 19:33           ` Jeremy Zawodny
2001-09-16 19:54             ` [PATCH] " Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 19:52           ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 19:17         ` vm rewrite ready [Re: broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9] Alan Cox
2001-09-16 19:15           ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 19:19         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-16 19:30           ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]       ` <20010917174037.7e3739b9.skraw@ithnet.com>
     [not found]         ` <20010917181040.J713@athlon.random>
     [not found]           ` <20010917191256.6e6a1c87.skraw@ithnet.com>
2001-09-17 22:41             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  9:00               ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-16 19:37     ` broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 14:04       ` Olaf Zaplinski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-09-16 15:19 Ricardo Galli
2001-09-16 15:23 ` Michael Rothwell
2001-09-16 16:33   ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 16:50     ` Andreas Steinmetz
2001-09-16 17:12       ` Ricardo Galli
2001-09-16 17:06     ` Ricardo Galli
2001-09-16 17:18       ` Jeremy Zawodny
2001-09-16 18:16       ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-16 18:45         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-21  3:16           ` Bill Davidsen
2001-09-21 10:21             ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-21 14:08               ` Bill Davidsen
2001-09-21 14:23                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-23 13:13                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-23 13:27                     ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 10:43             ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-21 12:13               ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 12:55                 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-21 13:01                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-22 11:01               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-22 20:05                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 19:43     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16 19:57       ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 20:17       ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 20:29       ` Andreas Steinmetz
2001-09-16 21:28         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16 22:47           ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-16 22:55             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16 22:59           ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-16 22:14             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16 23:29               ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-17 15:35               ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-17 15:51                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 16:34                   ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-17 16:46                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 17:20                       ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-17 17:37                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17  0:37       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-17  1:07         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17  2:23           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-17  5:11           ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-17 12:33             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-17 12:41               ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-17 14:49                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-17 16:14               ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-17 16:34                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 15:38             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 12:26           ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-17 15:42             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 12:04               ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-17 17:33             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 18:07               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 12:09               ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21  3:10       ` Bill Davidsen
2001-09-17  8:06     ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-17 12:12       ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-17 15:45         ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found] <fa.i95if5v.74un2p@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.gu977tv.1b7u0g9@ifi.uio.no>
2001-09-16 18:06   ` Dan Maas
2001-09-17 15:40 Rob Fuller
2001-09-17 16:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-19  9:45   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-19 19:45     ` Alan Cox
2001-09-19 21:03       ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-19 22:04         ` Alan Cox
2001-09-19 22:26           ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-19 23:05           ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-20 11:28           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-20 12:06             ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21  8:13               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-21 12:10                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 15:27                 ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-22  7:09                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-25 11:04                     ` Mike Fedyk
2001-09-20 12:57             ` Alan Cox
2001-09-20 13:40               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-24 22:50           ` Pavel Machek
2001-09-26 18:22             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-26 23:44               ` Pavel Machek
2001-09-27 13:52                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-10-01 11:37                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-19 23:00         ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21  8:23           ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-21 12:01             ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-22  2:14             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-22  3:09               ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 14:29           ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-09-21 14:35             ` Horst von Brand
2001-09-19 21:37       ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-19 21:55         ` David S. Miller
2001-09-20 13:02           ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-19 22:15 Rob Fuller
2001-09-19 22:21 ` David S. Miller
2001-09-19 22:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-09-20  3:16   ` GOTO Masanori
2001-09-20  7:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-09-19 22:30 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-19 22:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-19 22:51 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2001-09-22 19:59 Peter Magnusson
2001-09-22 20:18 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-22 19:59 Peter Magnusson
2001-09-22 20:46 ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-22 21:46   ` Peter Magnusson

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