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From: "Trever L. Adams" <vichu@digitalme.com>
To: Magnus Redin <redin@ingate.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [announce] [patch] limiting IRQ load, irq-rewrite-2.4.11-B5
Date: 04 Oct 2001 07:39:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1002195544.3137.10.camel@aurora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200110040825.KAA12270@reaktor.lkpg.cendio.se>
In-Reply-To: <200110040825.KAA12270@reaktor.lkpg.cendio.se>

On Thu, 2001-10-04 at 04:25, Magnus Redin wrote:
> 
> Linus writes:
> > Note that the big question here is WHO CARES?
> 
> Everybody building firewalls, routers, high performance web servers
> and broadband content servers with a Linux kernel.
> Everyody having a 100 Mbit/s external connection. 
> 
> 100 Mbit/s access is not uncommon for broadband access, at least in
> Sweden. There are right now a few hundred thousand twisted pair Cat 5
> and 5E installations into peoples homes with 100 Mbit/s
> equipment. Most of them are right now throttled to 10 Mbit/s to save
> upstream bandwidth but that will change as soon as we get more TV
> channels on the broadband nets. Cat 5E cabling is specified to be able
> to get gigabit into the homes to minimise the risk of the cabling
> becoming worthless in 10 or 20 years.

For businesses in some parts of the country, this is also becoming more
common (though it is usually 10 Mbit/s.  I believe that this will become
more and more common.

I do not agree with Linus's concept that you are foolish to allow people
"untrusted direct access", in so far as it applies to "no one would/will
allow high speed connections their machines."  Linus, dial-up
connections may not be a thing of the past for years to come, but what
we call high-speed is indeed changing.  Let us not let Linux fall
behind.  (AirSwitch in Utah offers 10 Mbits/s to the home in at least
Utah County.)

As for the technical debate of how to do this load limiting or
performance enhancement... I say do what is best on technical grounds...
not on bad assumptions.  This may mean that the other set of patches
going around may be best, or it may mean Ingo's is best or maybe
something entirely different.  I personally do not know!

Trever Adams


  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-04 11:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-04  8:25 [announce] [patch] limiting IRQ load, irq-rewrite-2.4.11-B5 Magnus Redin
2001-10-04 11:39 ` Trever L. Adams [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-08 14:45 jamal
2001-10-09  0:36 ` Scott Laird
2001-10-09  3:17   ` jamal
2001-10-09  4:04 ` Werner Almesberger
     [not found] <200110031811.f93IBoN10026@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-10-03 18:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04  9:19   ` BALBIR SINGH
2001-10-04  9:22     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04  9:49       ` BALBIR SINGH
2001-10-04 10:25         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-07 20:37           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-03 14:15 Manfred Spraul
2001-10-03 15:09 ` jamal
2001-10-03 18:37   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-10-02  0:41 jamal
2001-10-02  1:04 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-02  1:54   ` jamal
2001-10-02  5:13     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-02  5:55       ` Ben Greear
2001-10-02 17:03         ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-02 17:37           ` jamal
2001-10-02 19:46           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-03  9:22         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 14:06           ` David Brownell
2001-10-02 12:10       ` jamal
2001-10-02 22:00         ` jamal
2001-10-03  8:34           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03  9:29             ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-03 12:49             ` jamal
2001-10-03 14:51               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 15:14                 ` jamal
2001-10-03 17:28                   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04  0:53                     ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:28                       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04 11:34                         ` jamal
2001-10-04 17:40                           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-04 18:33                             ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:50                       ` Ben Greear
2001-10-04  6:52                         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04 11:50                           ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:55                         ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-04  6:56                           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04 21:28                 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-10-04 21:49                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-04 23:20                     ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-10-04 23:26                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-04 23:47                         ` Robert Love
2001-10-04 23:51                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-05  0:00                             ` Ben Greear
2001-10-05  0:18                               ` Davide Libenzi
2001-10-05  2:01                               ` jamal
2001-10-04 22:01                   ` Simon Kirby
2001-10-04 23:25                     ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-10-04 23:34                       ` Simon Kirby
2001-10-04 22:10                   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-04 23:28                     ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-10-05 15:22                     ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-03  9:38           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 13:03             ` jamal
2001-10-03 13:25               ` jamal
2001-10-03 13:38               ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-04 21:22                 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-10-05 14:32                   ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-03 15:28               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 15:56                 ` jamal
2001-10-03 16:51                   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 21:08                     ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-03 22:22                       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-04 17:32                         ` Davide Libenzi
2001-10-05 14:52                         ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-05 18:48                           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-05 19:07                             ` Davide Libenzi
2001-10-05 19:17                             ` kuznet
2001-10-07  6:11                               ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-08 13:58                               ` jamal
2001-10-08 17:42                                 ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-08 17:39                                   ` jamal
2001-10-04  0:46                     ` jamal
2001-10-08  0:31                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-08  4:58                       ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-10-08 15:00                       ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 15:03                         ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-08 15:12                           ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 15:09                             ` jamal
2001-10-08 15:22                               ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 15:20                                 ` jamal
2001-10-08 15:35                                   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 15:57                                     ` jamal
2001-10-08 16:11                                       ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 16:11                                         ` jamal
2001-10-10 16:26                                         ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-10 16:25                                     ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-08 15:24                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-08 15:35                               ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 15:19                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-08 15:10                       ` bill davidsen
2001-10-03 16:53                 ` kuznet
2001-10-03 17:06                   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04  0:44                     ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:35                       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04 11:41                         ` jamal
2001-10-04 13:05                         ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-05 16:42                         ` kuznet
2001-10-03 19:03                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-04  1:10                     ` jamal
2001-10-04  1:30                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-03 22:31                         ` Rob Landley
2001-10-04  1:39                         ` jamal
2001-10-03 15:42               ` Ben Greear
2001-10-03 15:58                 ` jamal
2001-10-03 16:09                   ` Ben Greear
2001-10-03 16:14                     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 16:20                     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-03 16:33                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-03 17:25                   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 18:11                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-03 20:41                       ` Jeremy Hansen
2001-10-03 20:02                   ` Simon Kirby
2001-10-04  1:04                     ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:47                       ` Ben Greear
2001-10-04  7:41                         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-04 16:09                           ` Ben Greear
2001-10-04 17:32                             ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-04 18:03                               ` Ben Greear
2001-10-04 18:30                           ` Christopher E. Brown
2001-10-04 11:47                         ` jamal
2001-10-04 15:56                           ` Ben Greear
2001-10-04 18:23                             ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:50                       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04 11:49                         ` jamal
2001-10-04  8:45                       ` Simon Kirby
2001-10-04 11:54                         ` jamal
2001-10-04 15:03                           ` Tim Hockin
2001-10-04 18:55                           ` Ion Badulescu
2001-10-04 19:00                             ` jamal
2001-10-04 21:16                               ` Ion Badulescu
2001-10-04  4:12                   ` bill davidsen
2001-10-04 18:16                   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-03  8:38         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04  3:50           ` bill davidsen
2001-10-01 22:16 Ingo Molnar
2001-10-01 22:26 ` Tim Hockin
2001-10-01 22:50   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-01 22:36 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-01 22:50 ` Ben Greear
2001-10-02 14:30   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-02 20:51     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-01 23:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-02  6:50 ` Marcus Sundberg
2001-10-03  8:47   ` Ingo Molnar

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