From: Erik Gustavsson <cyrano@algonet.se>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Swap
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:03:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1006124602.3890.0.camel@bettan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3BF82B3C.8070303@wanadoo.fr>
In-Reply-To: <3BF82443.5D3E2E11@starband.net> <E165ZRi-000718-00@mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk> <3BF827E1.5A2C7427@starband.net> <3BF82B3C.8070303@wanadoo.fr>
I agree... After a while it always seems that 80% or more of my RAM is
used for cache and buffers while my open, but not currently used apps
get pushed onto disk. Then when I decide to switch to that mozilla
window of emacs session I have to wait for it to be loaded from disk
again. Also considering the kind of disk activity this box has, the data
in the cache is mostly the last few hour's MP3's, in other words utterly
useless as that data will not be used again. I'd rather my apps stayed
in RAM...
Is there a way to limit the size of the cache?
/cyr
>
> I don't understand why it should be better with swap then... I mean,
> my comp seems to run so much faster (it doesn't take time to switch
> from one app to another, i mean) *without* swap.
> And I see no benefits to having an active swap, other than making my
> hard drive work harder.
>
> comp is PIII933/512MB on ATA100
> kernel is 2.4.14 with XFS patch.
>
> François
>
>
> war wrote:
>
> > Well, without the swap, everything seems to be about 100% more responsive when
> > I execute any task.
> > I see how it works now.
> >
> > James A Sutherland wrote:
> >
> >
> >>On Sunday 18 November 2001 9:12 pm, war wrote:
> >>
> >>>It is amazing that I could run all of that stuff, because:
> >>>
> >>>When I have swap on, and if I run all of those programs, 200-400MB of
> >>>swap is used.
> >>>
> >>Yep. There's a reason for that: the kernel is *ALWAYS* able to swap pages out
> >>to disk - even without "swap space". Disabling swapspace simply forces the
> >>kernel to swap out more code, since it cannot swap out any data.
> >>
> >>(This is why you can still get "disk thrashing" without any swap - in fact,
> >>it's more likely in this case than it is with some swap added - you are just
> >>forcing your binaries to take more of the swapping load instead.)
> >>
> >>So: with swapspace, the kernel swaps out a few hundred Mb of unused data, to
> >>make room for more code. Without it, the kernel is forced to swap out code
> >>pages instead. The big news here is...?
> >>
> >>James.
> >>
> >
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-11-19 7:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-11-18 21:12 Swap war
2001-11-18 21:25 ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-18 21:28 ` Swap war
2001-11-18 21:42 ` Swap François Cami
2001-11-18 21:45 ` Swap war
2001-11-18 23:03 ` Erik Gustavsson [this message]
2001-11-19 18:12 ` Swap Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-19 18:43 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 2:49 ` Swap Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-20 3:33 ` Swap Ryan Cumming
2001-11-20 11:43 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 11:41 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-19 19:12 ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-20 2:47 ` Swap Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-20 9:16 ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-18 22:05 ` Swap J.A. Magallon
2001-11-18 22:21 ` Swap François Cami
2001-11-18 22:36 ` Swap Charles Marslett
2001-11-18 22:54 ` Swap J.A. Magallon
2001-11-18 23:36 ` Swap Bernd Eckenfels
[not found] <fa.inl6g6v.1mmbp4@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.heevhav.sjs8an@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-18 22:15 ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-18 22:43 ` Swap François Cami
2001-11-19 9:18 ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-19 10:51 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-19 13:33 ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-19 13:46 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-19 16:58 ` Swap Rik van Riel
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0111191458150.1491-100000@duckman.distro.conecti va>
2001-11-19 21:13 ` Swap Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-19 21:17 ` Swap Rik van Riel
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0111191917000.1491-100000@duckman.distro.conecti va>
2001-11-19 21:52 ` Swap Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-19 16:36 ` Swap Jesse Pollard
2001-11-20 14:51 ` Swap J.A. Magallon
2001-11-20 16:01 ` Swap Wolfgang Rohdewald
2001-11-20 16:06 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 16:12 ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-20 16:20 ` Swap Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-20 17:14 ` Swap Christopher Friesen
2001-11-20 17:40 ` Swap Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-20 18:14 ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-21 10:17 ` Swap Helge Hafting
2001-11-21 11:17 ` Swap Alan Cox
2001-11-20 23:20 ` Swap Luigi Genoni
2001-11-21 16:44 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 17:58 ` Swap Wolfgang Rohdewald
2001-11-20 21:05 ` Swap Steffen Persvold
2001-11-20 21:18 ` Swap Mike Fedyk
2001-11-20 21:33 ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-20 21:44 ` Swap Mike Fedyk
2001-11-20 22:00 ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-21 16:53 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 21:43 ` Swap Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-20 21:19 ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-21 16:48 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 20:58 ` Swap Mike Fedyk
2001-11-19 10:03 ` Swap Tim Connors
2001-11-19 10:16 ` Swap Dan Maas
[not found] <fa.kmf405v.j74f21@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.ns5ugpv.q02sbg@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-20 21:26 ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-20 22:05 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 22:11 ` Swap David S. Miller
2001-11-20 22:19 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 22:34 ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-20 23:05 ` Swap Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <fa.jc73ejv.1s6e80t@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-21 1:45 ` Swap Håvard Kvålen
2001-11-21 4:23 ` Swap Andreas Dilger
2001-11-20 22:23 ` Swap Andrew Morton
2001-11-20 23:01 ` Swap David S. Miller
2001-11-20 23:35 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 23:40 ` Swap David S. Miller
2001-11-21 0:19 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-21 0:21 ` Swap David S. Miller
[not found] <fa.kb6ct7v.pgku0d@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.k8qdvcv.184ak2l@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-20 22:46 ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-20 23:17 ` Swap Trond Myklebust
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