Re: x bit for dirs: misfeature?

[Thomas Hood <jdthood@mail.com>]

Please forgive me if I overlooked the message that
already said this, but ...

James Sutherland wrote that "There are valid uses for
X only directories (i.e. users are not allowed to list 
the contents, only to access them directly by name).
R-only directories make little sense".  Then there
followed a long discussion about the utility of "--x"
directories.  (I agree that they aren't a very good
idea, since an explorable directory can be "listed" by
trial and error on the filenames within it.)

However, a decent reason for having separate r and x
is that "r--" directories _do_ make sense.  When a
directory is "r--", its contents can be _listed_ but the
directory cannot be browsed.  Observe:     // Thomas Hood


jdthood@thanatos:~/tmp$ ls -l
total 8
drwxr-xr-x    2 jdthood  jdthood      4096 Nov 20 10:59 ./
drwx------   89 jdthood  jdthood      4096 Nov 20 10:55 ../
jdthood@thanatos:~/tmp$ mkdir --mode=777 test
jdthood@thanatos:~/tmp$ ls -l
total 12
drwxr-xr-x    3 jdthood  jdthood      4096 Nov 20 10:59 ./
drwx------   89 jdthood  jdthood      4096 Nov 20 10:55 ../
drwxrwxrwx    2 jdthood  jdthood      4096 Nov 20 10:59 test/
jdthood@thanatos:~/tmp$ touch test/1
jdthood@thanatos:~/tmp$ touch test/2
jdthood@thanatos:~/tmp$ ls -l . test
.:
total 12
drwxr-xr-x    3 jdthood  jdthood      4096 Nov 20 10:59 ./
drwx------   89 jdthood  jdthood      4096 Nov 20 10:55 ../
drwxrwxrwx    2 jdthood  jdthood      4096 Nov 20 10:59 test/

test:
total 8
drwxrwxrwx    2 jdthood  jdthood      4096 Nov 20 10:59 ./
drwxr-xr-x    3 jdthood  jdthood      4096 Nov 20 10:59 ../
-rw-r--r--    1 jdthood  jdthood         0 Nov 20 10:59 1
-rw-r--r--    1 jdthood  jdthood         0 Nov 20 10:59 2
jdthood@thanatos:~/tmp$ chmod ugo-x test
jdthood@thanatos:~/tmp$ ls -l . test
.:
total 12
drwxr-xr-x    3 jdthood  jdthood      4096 Nov 20 10:59 ./
drwx------   89 jdthood  jdthood      4096 Nov 20 10:55 ../
drw-rw-rw-    2 jdthood  jdthood      4096 Nov 20 10:59 test/

ls: test/.: Permission denied
ls: test/..: Permission denied
ls: test/1: Permission denied
ls: test/2: Permission denied
test:
total 0
jdthood@thanatos:~/tmp$ chmod ugo-r test
jdthood@thanatos:~/tmp$ ls -l . test
.:
total 12
drwxr-xr-x    3 jdthood  jdthood      4096 Nov 20 10:59 ./
drwx------   89 jdthood  jdthood      4096 Nov 20 10:55 ../
d-w--w--w-    2 jdthood  jdthood      4096 Nov 20 10:59 test/

ls: test: Permission denied