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From: Phil Sorber <aafes@psu.edu>
To: David Relson <relson@osagesoftware.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Kernel Releases
Date: 25 Nov 2001 14:55:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1006718131.3088.13.camel@praetorian> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011124231412.00b40c50@mail.osagesoftware.com>
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011124231412.00b40c50@mail.osagesoftware.com>

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i know this is an old thread now, but i thought of something that might
be a nice feature, though it means more work for kernel maintainers.

a bug patch seperate from the new kernel patch. so you could only
upgrade from 2.4.0 with the bug fixes in 2.4.1. by the time you're at
something like 2.4.15, 2.4.0 should be rock solid. but you wouldn't have
any new funcionality.

say you wanted the new VM. you could upgrade to the first kernel with
the new VM, then get the bug patch for the latest kernel.

not a simple straigt forward idea, and it could mean a lot of work.
though maybe it is easier than i realize, or a few orders of magnitude
harder than i realize, and thus not worth it.

i've noticed that the 'aa' patch series seems to be something along
these lines.

On Sat, 2001-11-24 at 23:27, David Relson wrote:
> Greetings to All,
> 
> Over the past few months, I've been listening in on LKML, with occasional, 
> minor comments - mostly to help newbies.  Now, I think it's time for a 
> suggestion ...
> 
> As we all know, several of the recent releases have had defects that have 
> __required__ patches before they could be built (or used safely).  Problems 
> with symlinks, loopbacks, and unmount come to mind as being like 
> this.  They are all show stoppers that required immediate fixes and the 
> creation of a new release or of the next -pre1 version.
> 
> I have a tendency to tink that it's better to be running a released kernel, 
> than a pre-release kernel.  I'd much rather be running a kernel named 2.4.x 
> than a kernel named 2.4.y-pre?.  With the recent problems, the working 
> versions tend to be the -pre1 or -pre2 releases, not the released 
> one.  With a bit of QA, I think we can have 2.4.x releases be the stable 
> releases.  Here's how...
> 
> When the kernel maintainer, now Marcelo for 2.4, is ready to release the 
> next kernel, for example 2.4.16, I suggest he switch from "pre?" to "-rc1" 
> (as in release candidate).  A day or two with -rc1 will quickly show if it 
> has a show stopper.  If so, then the minor fixes (and nothing else) go into 
> -rc2.  A day or two ..., and either -rc3 appears or we have a stable 
> release and 2.4.16 is ready to be released.
> 
> Let's go the extra distance and have the releases be usable, stable 
> kernels!  It's what users want and it's within the abilities of the 
> developers to produce.  Let's do it :-)
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-11-25 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-25  4:27 Kernel Releases David Relson
2001-11-25  5:49 ` John Alvord
2001-11-25  6:34   ` CaT
2001-11-25 14:12   ` John Jasen
2001-11-26  7:15     ` John Alvord
2001-11-25 15:46   ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-25 16:23     ` Nathan Walp
2001-11-26 21:03     ` Bill Davidsen
2001-11-25 19:55 ` Phil Sorber [this message]
2001-11-26  9:22 ` Allan Sandfeld
2001-11-26 14:51   ` Ian Stirling
2001-11-26 15:02     ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-26 19:11       ` Ian Stirling
2001-11-26 19:55       ` vda
2001-11-26 20:42 ` Bill Davidsen
2001-11-27  4:21   ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-27  9:50   ` Helge Hafting
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-11-25  5:37 Dan Kegel
2001-11-25  9:25 ` Nathan Dabney
2001-11-25 10:24   ` Keith Owens
2001-11-25 13:34     ` Phil Howard
2001-11-25 19:03     ` Nathan Dabney
2001-11-26 10:46 Martin Knoblauch
2001-11-26 15:27 ` John Jasen
2001-11-26 20:36   ` Horst von Brand
2001-11-27  2:40     ` Gerhard Mack
2001-11-27 17:25 Dan Kegel
2001-11-27 17:36 ` François Cami
2001-11-27 17:38   ` Dan Kegel
2001-11-27 18:13     ` Vitaly Luban
2001-11-28 16:23     ` Horst von Brand
2001-11-28 19:17       ` Mike Fedyk
     [not found] <fa.dac7a7v.1hkofg8@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-27 17:53 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111261807570.489-100000@mikeg.weiden.de>
2001-11-27 18:08 ` vda
2001-11-27 16:58   ` Mike Galbraith

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