From: "Trever L. Adams" <vichu@digitalme.com>
To: Brandon McCombs <brandon@ovnet.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Coding style - a non-issue
Date: 02 Dec 2001 21:46:07 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1007347572.9110.0.camel@aurora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011202164344.637cef83.brandon@ovnet.com>
In-Reply-To: <RELAY1LpTVzF25mIaCG00000ed2@relay1.softcomca.com> <20011202164344.637cef83.brandon@ovnet.com>
> *finally* someone who doesn't believe in evolution of the human race. As a side note, i've heard some people say that a bolt of lightning triggered some proteins to start growing into single celled organisms and then into what we now call today human beings. I take offense that I came from a single celled organism. I believe the more complex an object or system is the less randomness can be added in order to arrive at the current/final version. I think we all agree the human body is the most complex object in the universe so how can we say that our existence was an accident?
>
I personally will stay out of the religious side of this argument,
having been flamed for standing up for any religious stand point on this
list.
However, I just finished my two bio classes for my CS degree. It is
interesting that you mention this lightening theory. My bio book (sorry
no references and no quotes, maybe later) stated that many people
(60's-80's) have tried very hard to duplicate and find conditions
whereby simple molecules could even form basic RNA or other such
biological/organic compounds. They had some very minimal success. In
the end it was concluded that the methods they were trying probably
would never have created RNA and other such things that may have
assembled a cell. Some of these tests were based on this lightening
theory.
Maybe such spontaneous life could have happened another way... I don't
really know.
As for software evolution. I would have to weigh in with my opinion
being somewhere between Linus and many others. Software does evolve.
Just about any human project does. This is one reason why there are
"versions", "editions", etc. You can only design so much. Then you go
back and evolve it. Is Linus right that there was nearly no design?? I
think he would know best about the earliest roots of Linux. However, I
think he is wrong that now there is no design (though there may be no
master plan, which would mean it is controlled evolution more than
engineered/designed).
Anyway, I will sink back into silence for now.
Trever Adams
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2001-12-02 20:53 Re: Coding style - a non-issue n7ekg
2001-12-02 21:43 ` Brandon McCombs
2001-12-02 22:00 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-02 22:05 ` Jonathan Abbey
2001-12-03 2:46 ` Trever L. Adams [this message]
2001-12-03 1:14 ` Daniel Phillips
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2001-12-03 16:32 Dana Lacoste
2001-12-03 15:20 Tommy Reynolds
2001-12-02 6:34 Khyron
2001-12-02 16:33 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-01 20:39 Stanislav Meduna
2001-12-01 21:18 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-01 22:44 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-02 8:01 ` Stanislav Meduna
2001-12-02 12:19 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-02 16:31 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-02 16:36 ` Stanislav Meduna
2001-12-02 16:57 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-02 22:44 ` Chris Ricker
2001-12-03 6:43 ` David S. Miller
2001-12-03 2:44 ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-03 9:07 ` Stanislav Meduna
2001-12-04 1:21 ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-01 21:44 ` Mohammad A. Haque
2001-12-02 9:31 ` John Alvord
2001-12-01 7:03 Tim Hockin
2001-11-30 19:53 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
2001-11-30 20:17 ` Paul G. Allen
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2001-12-03 18:34 ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2001-11-30 19:42 Galappatti, Kishantha
2001-11-30 18:19 Dana Lacoste
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2001-11-28 23:29 Peter Waltenberg
2001-11-28 23:40 ` Russell King
2001-11-28 23:48 ` Alan Cox
2001-11-28 23:48 ` Robert Love
2001-11-29 0:17 ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-29 0:23 ` Larry McVoy
2001-11-29 0:57 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-11-30 10:00 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-11-30 15:26 ` Larry McVoy
2001-11-30 16:39 ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2001-11-30 16:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-11-30 17:15 ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2001-11-30 17:23 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-30 17:27 ` Larry McVoy
2001-11-30 17:49 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-30 18:07 ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-30 18:13 ` Larry McVoy
2001-11-30 18:43 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-30 19:05 ` Larry McVoy
2001-11-30 21:54 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-30 22:06 ` Larry McVoy
2001-11-30 22:17 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-30 22:51 ` rddunlap
2001-12-01 0:35 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-01 0:44 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-01 0:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-01 1:09 ` Mike Castle
2001-12-01 1:34 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-01 16:05 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-12-01 16:27 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-01 18:54 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-01 1:15 ` Petko Manolov
2001-12-01 2:02 ` Tim Hockin
2001-12-01 2:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-01 23:11 ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-01 3:02 ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-12-01 3:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-01 3:30 ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-01 3:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-01 4:10 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-01 4:44 ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-12-01 5:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-01 6:13 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-01 20:17 ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-12-01 20:30 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-01 12:34 ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-12-01 22:23 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-02 0:43 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-02 9:30 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2001-12-02 18:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-12-02 17:32 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-02 20:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-12-02 18:41 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-02 19:04 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-12-02 19:17 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-02 19:42 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-12-04 10:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-12-05 22:18 ` Pavel Machek
2001-12-02 20:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-12-01 8:57 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-01 13:14 ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-12-01 13:38 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-01 15:15 ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-12-01 6:31 ` Stephen Satchell
2001-12-01 7:07 ` Zilvinas Valinskas
2001-12-01 22:15 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-01 4:44 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-12-01 23:18 ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-02 20:25 ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-02 23:51 ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-03 0:55 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-03 12:04 ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-12-03 13:20 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-07 18:15 ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-12-04 11:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-12-03 1:34 ` David L. Parsley
2001-12-03 3:06 ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-04 1:39 ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-04 22:25 ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2001-12-04 18:38 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-12-01 5:54 ` Stephen Satchell
2001-12-01 11:18 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-01 18:05 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-12-01 18:21 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-02 16:25 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-02 16:54 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-12-02 19:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-12-01 22:20 ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-02 17:18 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-30 22:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-30 18:44 ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2001-11-30 17:53 ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2001-11-30 18:07 ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-01 4:12 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-12-01 5:14 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-06 0:13 ` Rusty Russell
2001-11-30 17:31 ` Alan Cox
2001-11-30 17:55 ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-30 18:07 ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2001-12-02 20:13 ` Pavel Machek
2001-12-02 21:28 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-02 21:30 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-01 0:12 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-30 18:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-12-01 1:17 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-01 8:54 ` Gérard Roudier
2001-12-02 23:21 ` David S. Miller
2001-12-02 23:27 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-04 17:18 ` Gérard Roudier
2001-12-04 17:23 ` Gérard Roudier
2001-12-04 22:28 ` David S. Miller
2001-11-30 17:20 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-30 17:50 ` Russell King
2001-11-30 17:49 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-30 18:03 ` Russell King
2001-11-30 18:31 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-30 17:53 ` Alan Cox
2001-11-30 17:42 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-30 18:00 ` Russell King
2001-11-30 17:55 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-30 18:40 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-11-30 18:46 ` Russell King
2001-11-30 17:54 ` antirez
2001-11-30 18:20 ` Paul G. Allen
2001-11-30 18:47 ` antirez
2001-11-30 20:20 ` Paul G. Allen
2001-11-30 19:00 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-11-30 19:41 ` John Kodis
2001-11-30 20:27 ` Paul G. Allen
2001-12-01 21:52 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-01 23:22 ` john slee
2001-12-01 23:57 ` Paul G. Allen
2001-12-02 20:03 ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-29 0:50 ` David S. Miller
2001-11-29 1:07 ` Petko Manolov
2001-11-29 1:56 ` Matthias Andree
2001-11-30 18:15 ` Paul G. Allen
2001-11-30 18:29 ` John H. Robinson, IV
2001-11-30 18:39 ` Paul G. Allen
2001-11-30 18:38 ` Nestor Florez
2001-11-30 18:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-11-30 20:06 ` Paul G. Allen
2001-11-30 20:18 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-12-01 17:53 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-01 21:29 ` Paul G. Allen
2001-12-02 2:03 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-12-05 3:42 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-30 20:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-01 21:45 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-11-30 20:48 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-30 23:17 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-01 0:28 ` Rik van Riel
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