From: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>
To: Edward Muller <emuller@learningpatterns.com>
Cc: "RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado" <raul@viadomus.com>,
esr@thyrsus.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [kbuild-devel] Converting the 2.5 kernel to kbuild 2.5
Date: 04 Dec 2001 15:07:14 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1007496450.16169.20.camel@phantasy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1007495452.4621.7.camel@akira.learningpatterns.com>
In-Reply-To: <E16BKL5-0001yJ-00@DervishD.viadomus.com> <1007495452.4621.7.camel@akira.learningpatterns.com>
On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 14:50, Edward Muller wrote:
> I've put python on my Compaq IPAQ (running linux) and with very few
> amounts of tweaks it took up less 1 MB. And that's including gtk
> bindings (no tk though) and just about the entire standard python
> library. Someone else tried to do this with perl and they couldn't get
> it under 3 MB IIRC. And IIRC, the current kernel build system requires
> perl (I could be wrong, I'm just a watcher on this list, not a hacker).
> So ... PYTHON IS NOT BLOATED.
No, it doesn't require Perl. Its sh along with the standard Linux
toolset. xconfig is Tk, but not binded to Perl.
Regardless, I don't look at bloat as the issue -- who configures and
compiles their kernel on an embedded device? More specifically, it is
what the kernel hackers have available and want to use that is the
requirement. This is partly why the whole "now your mom can easily
configure her kernel" is a bs argument to me. Forget my mom..._I_ want
things a certain way. My mom, if I ever forc^H^H^H^H get her to use
Linux, will surely use the distro's kernel.
Robert Love
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-12-04 20:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-12-04 18:30 [kbuild-devel] Converting the 2.5 kernel to kbuild 2.5 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
2001-12-04 18:41 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 19:50 ` Edward Muller
2001-12-04 20:07 ` Robert Love [this message]
2001-12-04 21:23 ` Edward Muller
2001-12-05 1:26 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-05 16:14 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-06 0:37 ` Eric S. Raymond
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-04 19:06 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
2001-12-04 18:50 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
2001-12-04 18:50 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-05 1:29 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-04 18:38 Wayne.Brown
2001-12-04 17:18 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2001-12-04 17:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-05 3:21 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-12-04 17:11 Wayne.Brown
2001-12-04 17:44 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:46 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2001-12-04 18:21 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 18:24 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 23:00 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-04 23:05 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-04 23:21 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-04 17:08 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
2001-12-04 18:17 ` Jakob Kemi
2001-12-04 18:22 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 18:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-05 2:30 ` Greg Banks
2001-12-05 10:02 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 18:46 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-04 18:43 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 19:27 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-05 1:17 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-07 5:22 ` Stevie O
2001-12-03 1:06 Keith Owens
2001-12-03 1:19 ` [kbuild-devel] " Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-03 2:03 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-04 0:22 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-04 0:52 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-04 11:04 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 11:52 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 12:22 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 12:21 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-05 11:15 ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-04 12:19 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 12:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 12:28 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 12:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 12:48 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 13:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 13:16 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 13:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 15:40 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 16:11 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 16:33 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-04 17:03 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:38 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2001-12-04 17:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 19:03 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-04 19:04 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:43 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-04 19:48 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-04 19:53 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-04 20:03 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-04 19:57 ` Mike Castle
2001-12-04 19:59 ` Edward Muller
2001-12-04 20:11 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-04 20:20 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 21:03 ` Edward Muller
2001-12-04 22:10 ` Trevor Smith
2001-12-04 22:26 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 20:20 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-12-05 3:14 ` John Cowan
2001-12-05 4:36 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-12-05 14:54 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-05 14:51 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-06 0:37 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-06 16:49 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-06 9:57 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-06 16:59 ` John Stoffel
2001-12-06 17:25 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 10:03 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-07 0:06 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-07 0:57 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-07 1:44 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-06 18:30 ` John Stoffel
2001-12-06 18:51 ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-06 18:59 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-06 19:14 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-06 22:17 ` John Cowan
2001-12-07 14:44 ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-07 15:56 ` John Alvord
2001-12-10 9:55 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-07 18:12 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-07 0:58 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-06 18:07 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-06 18:22 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-06 19:10 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-04 17:44 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 17:15 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 17:19 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:30 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-04 17:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 17:42 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 17:38 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 18:01 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 18:47 ` Robert Love
2001-12-04 19:28 ` Bernhard Rosenkraenzer
2001-12-04 17:20 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-04 17:27 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-04 18:13 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 18:26 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 18:27 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 19:19 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2001-12-04 19:24 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-05 11:06 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-04 16:41 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 16:52 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2001-12-04 17:06 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:15 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 17:50 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-05 1:17 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-04 17:02 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 17:07 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:08 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:19 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 17:34 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 16:31 ` John Stoffel
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