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* RE: Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.hel p.
@ 2001-12-20 19:27 Dana Lacoste
  2001-12-21 12:41 ` B is Bel? b is Barn? [was RE: Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.help] Juergen Sawinski
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From: Dana Lacoste @ 2001-12-20 19:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'nknight@pocketinet.com'; +Cc: linux-kernel

> Everyone I know has been using KB/MB/GB for 1024 forever.

Ahhh, now I see the problem.  You don't know many people :) :) :) :) :)

> The *only* exception is networking, and the occasional FLASH/ROM size. 

bullshit.

check out any recent hard drive : 

drive size = 40235MB*
* 1MB = 1000000 Bytes

there is _no_ standard for what 1MB means.  There is a LOT of
confusion, and most places will accept both

for example, the gnu ls command has :
  -h, --human-readable  print sizes in human readable format (e.g., 1K 234M
2G)
      --si                   likewise, but use powers of 1000 not 1024

This move might look weird, but in 6 months nobody will even remember
the change happening.  Less ambiguity is a Good Thing :)

Dana Lacoste
Ottawa, Canada

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* B is Bel? b is Barn? [was RE: Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.help]
  2001-12-20 19:27 Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.hel p Dana Lacoste
@ 2001-12-21 12:41 ` Juergen Sawinski
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From: Juergen Sawinski @ 2001-12-21 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel@vger

(Have a look at http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/outside.html.)

Strictly speaking, "Byte" is actually a prefix, too. A prefix of the
number "1" - however, a prefix with a context. "bit", "rad" and others
are not real units, they are more like "context descriptions" off the
number "1".

I think, the prefixes "...T,G,M,k,m,µ..." should be taken, as they were
for a long time: context specific.

IMAO, if there is any sane way of defining this, it is by giving a base
as index (like the log function). In case of bit, Byte etc. -as they
already define a context- the base is always 2. In case of SI Base
Units, the base is 10.

But that's only my 0.5 Nibble cents/bit (oh, I mean Euro cents/bit).

George

P.S.: What's about using mole?

On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 20:27, Dana Lacoste wrote:
[...] 
> there is _no_ standard for what 1MB means.  There is a LOT of
> confusion, and most places will accept both
[...]

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