From: "richard offer" <offer@sgi.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: build -->/usr/src/linux
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:52:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1010410095237.ZM1290@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk> "Re: build -->/usr/src/linux" (Apr 10, 6:42pm)
In-Reply-To: <3AD079EA.50DA97F3@rcn.com> <20010408161620.A21660@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <3AD0A029.C17C3EFC@rcn.com> <9aqmgo$8f6ol$1@fido.engr.sgi.com> <10104091601.ZM401478@sgi.com> <20010410160825.A20555@pcep-jamie.cern.ch> <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk> <1010410093615.ZM1231@sgi.com> <20010410184237.A20969@pcep-jamie.cern.ch>
* $ from lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk at "10-Apr: 6:42pm" | sed "1,$s/^/* /"
*
*
* richard offer wrote:
* > * > uname does not always provide useful information (cross compiling).
Even
* > * > if you're building the same ISA, you maybe in a chroot'ed environment.
* > * >
* > * > Can we please not assume that everybody only ever builds native...
* > *
* > * Nobody is assuming that. If you're hard enough to do a cross compile,
* > * you can build external modules using "make KERNEL_RELEASE=2.4.2
* > * KERNEL_SOURCE=/home/jamie/cross_compiling/kernel ARCH=mips64" or
* > * whatever.
* >
* > Applications make that assumption all the time.
* >
* > Yes, this is the kernel mail list, but applications use kernel services. By
* > tacitly agreeing that you get the kernel headers from /lib/modules/`uname
* > -r`/build/include that's what people will code into their makefiles.
*
* _Applications_ should not use kernel headers at all. For ioctls, they
* should ship with copies of the definitions they need. That's been made
* clear as crystal many times on this list, and it should be in the FAQ if
* it isn't already.
What if your application contains some user code and a kernel module ?
Want an obvious example ? X.
*
* > Saying "oh, but applications should do that" isn't much of a argument,
* > as there isn't a better way of working out where a set of kernel
* > headers are.
s/should/shouldn't/
*
* -- Jamie
*
richard.
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Richard Offer Technical Lead, Trust Technology.
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Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <9aqmgo$8f6ol$1@fido.engr.sgi.com>
2001-04-08 14:47 ` build -->/usr/src/linux Marvin Stodolsky
2001-04-08 15:16 ` Russell King
2001-04-08 17:30 ` Marvin Stodolsky
2001-04-08 21:49 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-04-08 23:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-09 11:29 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-04-09 15:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-09 23:01 ` richard offer
2001-04-10 14:08 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-10 16:36 ` richard offer
2001-04-10 16:42 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-10 16:52 ` richard offer [this message]
2001-04-10 17:04 ` Jamie Lokier
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