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From: Ed Sweetman <ed.sweetman@wmich.edu>
To: Daniel Nofftz <nofftz@castor.uni-trier.de>
Cc: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>,
	Timothy Covell <timothy.covell@ashavan.org>,
	Dieter N?tzel <Dieter.Nuetzel@hamburg.de>,
	Dave Jones <davej@suse.de>, Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.de>,
	Martin Peters <mpet@bigfoot.de>,
	Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] amd athlon cooling on kt266/266a chipset
Date: 23 Jan 2002 10:47:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1011800844.21246.10.camel@psuedomode> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.40.0201231411240.31513-100000@hades.uni-trier.de>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.40.0201231411240.31513-100000@hades.uni-trier.de>

On Wed, 2002-01-23 at 08:19, Daniel Nofftz wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
> > Won't ACPI idle do that well enough?
> 
> yes ... and no!
> first: my patch is useless, if you don't activate acpi idle calls ...
> second: the idle calls will not save power on an athlon/duron/athlon xp ,
> unless a specific bit in the chipset is set, which will cause the chipset
> to disconnect the frontside bus of the cpu ... and this is what the patch
> does: it sets only the bit in the northbridge of the kt133/kx133 and
> kt266/266a chipset ... -> now the acpi idle calls will bring power saving
> and lesser temperature
> the patch inserts a pci_quirk function which sets the bit in the
> northbridge ... (at the boot-prompt you have to pass the comment
> amd_disconnect=yes to use this function ...)
> 
> daniel

What's the official word on the resulting stress on the hardware from
disconnecting and connecting rapidly like that?   Has any test ever been
carried out to see if it causes damage after say, a couple months of
use?  ...in other operating systems that had this already of course.  
always something not so safe sounding about turning the cpu on and off
rapidly added to the greater temperature extremes.   Also, can you
relink your patch?


  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-23 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-22 22:01 [patch] amd athlon cooling on kt266/266a chipset Dieter Nützel
2002-01-22 22:21 ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-22 22:42   ` Dieter Nützel
2002-01-24  5:14     ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-23  7:27       ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-23 11:55         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-23 13:19           ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-23 15:47             ` Ed Sweetman [this message]
2002-01-23 19:18               ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-24 18:14         ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-23 19:24           ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-23 20:22             ` Dieter Nützel
2002-01-24 23:33               ` [patch] amd athlon cooling on KT133A sensor lockup Timothy Covell
2002-01-23 23:48                 ` Dieter Nützel
     [not found]                 ` <200201232348.g0NNmqb16015@dydimus.dreamhost.com>
2002-01-25  0:37                   ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-24  9:55             ` [patch] amd athlon cooling on kt266/266a chipset Pavel Machek
2002-01-24 21:50               ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-23 20:18       ` Dieter Nützel
     [not found]   ` <200201232018.g0NKI9Q06525@dydimus.dreamhost.com>
     [not found]     ` <200201232248.g0NMmqL01292@home.ashavan.org.>
2002-01-23 23:20       ` Dieter Nützel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-01-25  8:54 Thomas Tonino
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201241223260.28872-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-01-24 18:25 ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2002-01-24 21:33   ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-24 15:58 Dieter Nützel
     [not found] <200201232321.AAA02845@rzmail.uni-trier.de>
2002-01-24 10:32 ` Daniel Nofftz
     [not found] <200201232023.VAA07669@rzmail.uni-trier.de>
2002-01-23 20:55 ` Daniel Nofftz
     [not found] <000701c1a42c$8c6f8680$0201a8c0@HOMER>
2002-01-23 19:21 ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-23 20:36   ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2002-01-23 20:38     ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-23 20:50       ` Joel Jaeggli
2002-01-24  2:33   ` Dieter Nützel
     [not found]   ` <E16TZhr-00049f-00@mxng04.kundenserver.de>
2002-01-24 12:59     ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2002-01-24 14:23       ` Ed Sweetman
2002-01-25 12:23         ` Matthew Sackman
2002-01-24 14:39   ` Martin Eriksson
2002-01-24 21:06     ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-24 23:18       ` Dieter Nützel
2002-01-24 23:27       ` Dieter Nützel
2002-01-25 14:17         ` Liakakis Kostas
2002-01-25 15:31           ` Ed Sweetman
2002-01-25 16:10             ` Liakakis Kostas
2002-01-25 17:19               ` Dave Jones
     [not found] <200201222243.XAA14711@rzmail.uni-trier.de>
2002-01-23  7:42 ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-22 17:15 Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-22 18:51 ` Lee Packham
2002-01-22 19:03   ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-23 20:16 ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2002-01-23 20:29   ` Ed Sweetman
2002-01-23 20:54     ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2002-01-23 21:04       ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-23 22:25       ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2002-01-24  9:54         ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-24  9:47     ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-24 12:35       ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2002-01-24 20:54         ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-24 21:16           ` Disconnect
2002-01-24 21:55             ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-24 22:16           ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2002-01-30  8:58             ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-23 20:49   ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-23 21:16     ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2002-01-24  9:49       ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-24 12:40         ` Rasmus Bøg Hansen
2002-01-24 20:57           ` Daniel Nofftz
2002-01-24 21:14             ` Rasmus Bøg Hansen
2002-01-24 21:52               ` Daniel Nofftz

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