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From: Colin Walters <walters@debian.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, opensource@cis.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Re: [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers
Date: 06 Mar 2002 14:46:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1015444003.18074.7.camel@space-ghost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0203061300500.2181-100000@imladris.surriel.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0203061300500.2181-100000@imladris.surriel.com>

On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 11:04, Rik van Riel wrote:
> I strongly object to the fact that you're trying to stop
> me from advocating the best piece of source control
> software that I know.
> 
> <endorsement>

That's fine; you are free to ignore the petition, as was stated earlier.

> Now, are you about censoring my free speech in the name of
> "protecting freedom and free software" 

We don't have the power (or will) to censor you; only you and perhaps
your government have that power.

> or are you going to
> write free version control software with the functionality
> of bitkeeper so there is a free alternative ?

Since this seems to be a good representative of the "Why don't you write
your own" argument, I'll just respond to this one.  

The petition is in no way exclusive of writing our own versioning
control software.  Some of us might go on from here to hack on one, like
arch.  But if we had been associated with a particular competitior to
BitKeeper, then it would have been unethical to send the petition, since
it would be just a form of advertising for us.

I admit I have done a completely trivial amount of work on the Debian
package of arch, but besides that, I don't think any signer of the
petition was associated with a BitKeeper competitior.  We are just Linux
users who are concerned about the direction the kernel maintainers are
taking, because of the various problems associated with BitKeeper.

That being said, I personally will probably start getting more involved
with arch.  Hacking on a verison control system looks like fun.



  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-06 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-05 21:52 Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers The Open Source Club at The Ohio State University
2002-03-05 22:16 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-05 22:38 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-06  0:51   ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 14:54     ` Kent Borg
2002-03-06 16:56       ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 22:13         ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-07 16:17           ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-07 19:54             ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 20:15               ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 20:38                 ` yodaiken
2002-03-07 21:05                 ` [opensource] " michael bernstein
2002-03-07 21:07                   ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 21:24                     ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-07 22:44                       ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-07 23:08                         ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of Alan Cox
2002-03-07 23:04                           ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-08  4:12                     ` Open Source should stand on its own two legs Mark Mielke
2002-03-07 21:41                   ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers yodaiken
2002-03-07 22:01                   ` John Jasen
2002-03-07 22:17                   ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 23:21                   ` Alan Cox
2002-03-13  2:31                     ` Petro
2002-03-08  2:38                   ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-07 20:50               ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-07 20:53                 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 21:23                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 21:42                   ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 21:47                 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-07 20:50               ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 21:12                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 21:15                   ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 22:28                   ` Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by LinuxMaintainers Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 22:47                     ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 22:56                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-15  6:45                     ` kgdb for 2.4 and 2.5, now in BK Jeff Garzik
2002-03-07 21:47                 ` Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 21:58                   ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 21:58                   ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 22:08                   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-07 22:46                 ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-07 22:42             ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-07 19:18           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-07 19:32             ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 20:12             ` george anzinger
2002-03-07 21:37             ` kernel debuggers (was Bitkeeper Bashing) Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-05 22:41 ` Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-05 22:40   ` [opensource] " Colin Walters
2002-03-05 22:54     ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement ofBitKeeper " Jeff Garzik
2002-03-05 23:06       ` Colin Walters
2002-03-05 23:11       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-03-06  0:09       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-06  2:23       ` Karl
2002-03-06  3:35         ` michael bernstein
2002-03-07  1:22       ` David Schwartz
2002-03-05 23:01     ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper " Mike Fedyk
2002-03-05 23:14       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-05 23:25         ` David Lang
2002-03-06 20:46         ` Mark Mielke
2002-03-06 21:07           ` Chris Friesen
2002-03-07  2:35           ` Petro
2002-03-05 23:16       ` David Lang
2002-03-05 23:19       ` Colin Walters
2002-03-05 23:36       ` Michael Bernstein
2002-03-05 23:52         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-05 23:57           ` That Linux Guy
2002-03-06  0:02         ` Kenneth Johansson
2002-03-06  1:05         ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-06  1:22           ` Dave Jones
2002-03-06  1:46             ` Shawn Starr
2002-03-06  1:50               ` Mike Fedyk
2002-03-06  1:59                 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06  2:19                 ` Shawn Starr
2002-03-06 16:08         ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07  1:27         ` David Schwartz
2002-03-07  1:34           ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07  2:33             ` Petro
2002-03-07  7:06               ` Rob Turk
2002-03-09 16:12       ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeepe Kai Henningsen
2002-03-06 16:04     ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers Rik van Riel
2002-03-06 19:46       ` Colin Walters [this message]
2002-03-06 20:12         ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-06 20:24           ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-06 20:57       ` David S. Miller
2002-03-06 21:12         ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 21:15           ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-06 21:25         ` Evan Powers
2002-03-05 22:50   ` Kilobug
2002-03-05 23:29   ` Stephen Samuel
     [not found]     ` <004301c1c4a6$ab218340$b0d3fea9@pcs686>
2002-03-08  1:39       ` Stephen Samuel
2002-03-08  2:25         ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-08  3:32         ` yodaiken
2002-03-08  4:35           ` Andreas Dilger
2002-03-08  7:56         ` Sean Hunter
2002-03-06  2:23   ` Karl
2002-03-06  3:47     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-06  3:40       ` [opensource] " michael bernstein
2002-03-06  5:04         ` Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-05 23:58 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-06  0:11   ` [opensource] " Colin Walters
2002-03-06  6:11     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-03-06  7:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-06 15:58 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07  9:15   ` Pau Aliagas
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-05 23:50 [opensource] " Kevin Brown

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