From: Kenneth Johansson <ken@canit.se>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
Cc: Ion Badulescu <ionut@cs.columbia.edu>,
Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: KBuild 2.5 Impressions
Date: 31 May 2002 02:13:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1022803993.2799.13.camel@tiger> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E17DZCa-0007hI-00@starship>
On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 01:19, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> There is exactly one valid objection I've seen to kbuild 2.5 inclusion,
> and that is the matter of breaking up the patch. Having done a quick
> tour through the whole patch set, I now know that there are some
> easy places to break it up:
>
> - Documentation is a large part of the patch and can be easily
> broken out.
>
> - The makefile parser, complete with state transition tables etc,
> lexer, and so on, breaks out cleanly (sits on top of the db
> utilities).
>
> - Executable programs written in C. Each one ends with a
> 'main' function, and there is the natural division.
>
> - The remaining C code breaks out into a number of separable
> components:
>
> - Utilities such as environment variable parsing, canonical
> name generation, line reading, line editing etc.
> - The database
> - File utilities that use the database (e.g., walk_fs_db)
> - Dependency generation
> - Global Makefile construction (command generation etc)
>
> These tend to be common to a number of the executable programs,
> and so have the nature of library components. They can all go
> under the heading 'lib', and further breakdown is probably not
> necessary.
>
> - The Makefile.in patches seem to be about 30-40% of the whole
> thing, and imho must be applied all at the same time. However,
> they break up nicely across subsystem lines (drivers, fs, etc)
>
> - The per-arch patches are already broken out, and are short.
>
> I think that with these breakups done the thing would be sufficiently
> digestible to satisfy Linus. Now that I think of it, Linus's request
> for a breakup is really an endorsement, and quite possibly Keith took
> it the wrong way. (Keith, by the way, how did I do on the structural
> breakdown? Sorry, I really couldn't spend as much time on it as it
> deserves.)
Maybe I'm the idiot here but what dose this gain you??
The reason to break up a patch is not simply to get more of them. There
is no point in splitting if you still need to use every single one of
them to make anything work.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-05-31 0:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-05-30 9:45 KBuild 2.5 Impressions Daniel Phillips
2002-05-30 12:50 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-30 14:08 ` Kenneth Johansson
2002-05-30 13:28 ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2002-05-30 21:55 ` Ion Badulescu
2002-05-30 22:29 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-05-30 23:19 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-31 0:09 ` David Lang
2002-05-31 0:29 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-31 0:32 ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-03 7:21 ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-31 0:13 ` Kenneth Johansson [this message]
2002-05-31 0:47 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-31 1:20 ` Skip Ford
2002-05-31 1:24 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-31 13:48 ` Tomas Szepe
2002-05-31 14:28 ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-05-31 15:21 ` Thunder from the hill
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205302129120.29405-100000@hawkeye.luckynet.adm>
2002-05-31 4:01 ` Skip Ford
2002-05-31 4:46 ` KBuild 2.5 Migration Daniel Phillips
2002-05-31 5:12 ` Skip Ford
2002-05-31 0:48 ` KBuild 2.5 Impressions Nicolas Pitre
2002-05-31 3:29 ` Hua Zhong
2002-05-31 3:39 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-31 3:55 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-02 4:03 ` Ion Badulescu
2002-06-02 6:51 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-02 7:58 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-02 14:03 ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-06-02 14:38 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-02 14:56 ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-06-02 15:05 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-02 15:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-02 18:26 ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-06-02 18:39 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-02 18:57 ` Ion Badulescu
2002-06-02 19:15 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-03 2:04 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-06-02 15:47 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-02 11:21 ` Peter Osterlund
2002-06-02 11:37 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-02 11:53 ` Peter Osterlund
2002-06-02 12:03 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-02 12:09 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-02 12:51 ` Peter Osterlund
2002-06-02 14:00 ` Daniel Phillips
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-03 2:49 Dan Kegel
2002-06-03 3:28 ` Linus Torvalds
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