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From: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>
To: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cantab.net>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	torvalds@transmeta.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	k-suganuma@mvj.biglobe.ne.jp, Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.21 Nonlinear CPU support
Date: 11 Jun 2002 10:59:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1023818365.21176.237.camel@sinai> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020611114701.00aefec0@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk>

On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 03:57, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:

> This is crazy! It means you are allocating 2MiB of memory instead of just 
> 128kiB on a 2 CPU system, which will be about 99% of the SMP systems in 
> use, at my guess. So your change is throwing away 1920kiB of kernel ram for 
> no reason at all. And that is just ntfs...
>
> CPU hot plugging is an extremely specialised corner case so can you please 
> make it a config option and not get rid of smp_num_cpus? If people enable 
> the option make smp_num_cpus be the same as NR_CPUS and if not leave it be 
> as it is now.

I agree.  One can argue these rants are just for "micro optimizations"
(although I disagree the size issue is "micro") but someone has to stay
on top of these issues...

Hot swappable CPUs is incredibly specialized and corner-cased.
 
> Anything else penalizes the majority of users just to allow a tiny minority 
> to do strange things like swap cpus without rebooting...

It is by no means a solution, but I just posted a patch to configure
NR_CPUS... so setting it to, say, 2 on your dual box should help you
out.  On the converse, however, it introduces a default of 64 on 64-bit
boxen so it compounds the problem for users who don't tweak the
setting... something still needs to be done with the hotplug code.

	Robert Love


  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-11 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-11  7:08 [PATCH] 2.5.21 Nonlinear CPU support Rusty Russell
2002-06-11  7:42 ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-11  9:09   ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-11  9:10     ` David S. Miller
2002-06-12  6:58       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-12  9:26         ` David S. Miller
2002-06-13  5:01           ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-13  5:55             ` David S. Miller
2002-06-11  9:27     ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-11 11:22       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12  5:57         ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-12  7:54           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12  8:06             ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-12  8:25               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 19:32                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-12 13:10               ` Mikael Pettersson
2002-06-13  2:42                 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-12  0:53       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-12  8:36       ` Helge Hafting
2002-06-11 10:57   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-11 17:59     ` Robert Love [this message]
2002-06-12  4:11       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-11 19:29     ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-06-11 14:54       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 19:32         ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-06-12 15:08           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 17:36             ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-12 18:34               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 19:39                 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-12 20:41                   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 21:03                     ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-12 21:15                       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 20:03                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-06-12 20:54                   ` Robert Love
2002-06-12 20:57                   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 22:21                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-06-13  1:33                       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-13  1:38                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-06-13  1:45                           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-13  2:13                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-06-13  2:21                               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-13  8:43                             ` Helge Hafting
2002-06-11 18:01       ` Robert Love
2002-06-12  7:57 ` Alan Cox
2002-06-12  8:01   ` Rusty Russell
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0206121226550.1533-100000@penguin.transmeta. com>
2002-06-12 21:29 ` Anton Altaparmakov

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