From: Vladimir Zidar <mr_w@mindnever.org>
To: "Peter Wächtler" <pwaechtler@loewe-komp.de>
Cc: Hubertus Franke <frankeh@watson.ibm.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Futex Asynchronous Interface
Date: 12 Jun 2002 20:15:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1023905756.1387.290.camel@server1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D077BBB.6090708@loewe-komp.de>
On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 18:50, Peter Wächtler wrote:
> >>What are the plans on how to deal with a waiter when the lock holder
> >>dies abnormally?
> >>
> >>What about sending a signal (SIGTRAP or SIGLOST), returning -1 and
> >>setting errno to a reasonable value (EIO?)
> >>
> >>I couldn't find anything in susv3
> >>
> >
> > I thing this was decided some time ago that we won't deal with this situation.
> > If we need to, the following needs to happen.
> >
> > A) we need to follow a protocol to register the PID/TID id within the lock.
> > Example of this is described in
> > "Recoverable User-Level Mutual Exclusion" by Phiilip Bohannon
> > Proceedings of the 7th IEEE Symposium on Parallel and Distributed
> > Systems, 1995.
> >
> > B) this again requires that some entity (kernel ?) knows about all locks,
> > whether waited on in the kernel or not.
> >
> > C) I believe we need a deamon that occasinally identifies dead locks.
> >
> > Is it worth all this trouble? Or do we need two versions of the ?
> >
> > The paper describes that for a Sun SS20/61 the safe spin locks obtained
> > only 25% of the performance of spinlocks.
> >
>
> Oops, I see it already myself. We lack a way for saying who is/was owning
> the futex and so we can hardly tell who is waiting on this "unknown" lock.
> :-(
Which is not the case in 'nutex' implementation.
Take look:
http://www.mindnever.org/~mr_w/nutex_mod.tar.gz
--
Bye,
and have a very nice day !
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-06-12 18:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-06 7:26 [PATCH] Futex Asynchronous Interface Rusty Russell
2002-06-02 0:10 ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-10 6:57 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-06 16:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-06 19:27 ` Alan Cox
2002-06-06 23:21 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-07 8:33 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-08 22:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-09 9:49 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-09 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-09 19:06 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-10 6:39 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-10 7:55 ` Helge Hafting
2002-06-10 14:10 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-10 20:46 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-11 14:14 ` john slee
2002-06-10 15:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-11 15:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-10 20:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-06-09 10:07 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-09 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-07 9:06 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-08 22:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-11 9:15 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-11 16:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-12 5:32 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-12 9:16 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-12 14:19 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-06-12 16:50 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-12 18:15 ` Vladimir Zidar [this message]
2002-06-12 15:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-12 16:29 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-12 16:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-12 17:07 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-12 18:32 ` Saurabh Desai
2002-06-12 20:05 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-12 20:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-13 2:57 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-13 9:37 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-13 9:55 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-13 16:38 ` Gabriel Paubert
2002-06-13 16:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-13 1:32 ` Rusty Russell
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-06 16:08 Martin Wirth
2002-06-06 22:59 ` Rusty Russell
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