From: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>
To: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>
Cc: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>,
mgix@mgix.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Question about sched_yield()
Date: 18 Jun 2002 10:13:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1024420400.3090.202.camel@sinai> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D0F669C.89596EC0@nortelnetworks.com>
On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 09:58, Chris Friesen wrote:
> David Schwartz wrote:
>
> > What would you expect?
>
> If there is only the one task, then sure it's going to be 100% cpu on that
> task.
>
> However, if there is anything else other than the idle task that wants to
> run, then it should run until it exhausts its timeslice.
>
> One process looping on sched_yield() and another one doing calculations
> should result in almost the entire system being devoted to calculations.
Exactly. The reason the behavior is odd is not because the sched_yield
task is getting any CPU, David. I realize sched_yield is not equivalent
to blocking.
The reason this behavior is suspect is because the task is receiving a
similar amount of CPU to tasks that are _not_ yielding but in fact doing
useful work for the entire duration of their timeslice.
A task that continually uses its timeslice vs one that yields should
easily receive a greater amount of CPU, but this is not the case.
As someone who works in the scheduler, this points out that sched_yield
is, well, broken. First guess would be it is queuing to the front of
the runqueue (it once did this but I thought it was fixed) or otherwise
exhausting the timeslice wrong.
Someone pointed out this bug existed similarly in 2.5, although it was a
bit different. 2.5 has a different (and better, imo) sched_yield
implementation that tries to overcome certain shortcomings and also
perform optimally and fairly.
Robert Love
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-06-18 17:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-15 22:15 Question about sched_yield() mgix
2002-06-16 14:43 ` [patch] " Ingo Molnar
2002-06-18 0:46 ` David Schwartz
2002-06-18 0:55 ` Robert Love
2002-06-18 1:51 ` mgix
2002-06-18 3:18 ` David Schwartz
2002-06-18 9:36 ` David Schwartz
2002-06-18 16:58 ` Chris Friesen
2002-06-18 17:12 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-06-18 17:19 ` mgix
2002-06-18 18:01 ` David Schwartz
2002-06-18 18:05 ` mgix
2002-06-18 19:11 ` David Schwartz
2002-06-18 16:58 ` Rob Landley
2002-06-18 19:25 ` Robert Love
2002-06-18 19:53 ` David Schwartz
2002-06-18 20:12 ` mgix
2002-06-18 20:42 ` David Schwartz
2002-06-18 20:47 ` mgix
2002-06-18 22:00 ` David Schwartz
2002-06-18 22:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-06-18 20:08 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-06-19 11:10 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-06-19 12:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-06-18 22:43 ` Olivier Galibert
2002-06-18 18:21 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-06-18 17:13 ` Robert Love [this message]
2002-06-18 18:00 ` David Schwartz
2002-06-18 22:45 ` Stevie O
2002-06-19 2:11 ` David Schwartz
2002-06-19 2:52 ` Stevie O
2002-06-20 20:31 ` David Schwartz
2002-06-18 17:23 ` Rik van Riel
2002-06-18 17:50 ` Chris Friesen
2002-06-18 1:41 ` mgix
2002-06-18 3:21 ` David Schwartz
2002-06-18 3:52 ` mgix
2002-06-18 4:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-06-19 11:24 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-06-19 11:47 ` scheduler timeslice distribution, threads, processes. [was: Re: Question about sched_yield()] Ingo Molnar
2002-06-18 18:56 ` Question about sched_yield() Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 19:12 ` David Schwartz
2002-06-18 20:19 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:40 ` David Schwartz
2002-06-18 20:42 ` mgix
2002-06-18 22:03 ` David Schwartz
2002-06-18 22:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-06-19 11:29 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-06-19 14:03 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-19 22:25 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-06-19 22:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-06-19 2:10 ` jw schultz
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