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From: Daniel Egger <degger@fhm.edu>
To: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cantab.net>
Cc: Thunder from the hill <thunder@ngforever.de>,
	venom@sns.it, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: IBM Desktar disk problem?
Date: 05 Jul 2002 17:32:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1025883147.17269.24.camel@sonja.de.interearth.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020705152010.00aa2af0@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk>

Am Fre, 2002-07-05 um 16.29 schrieb Anton Altaparmakov:

> Um, the solution is already known. Upgrade the firmware on the drive, low 
> level format if the drive thinks there are bad sectors, and be happy. At 
> least it worked for me...
 
> The very first question when making a support call for my broken deathstar 
> was "Have you installed the firmware update?" "No." "Download it here and 
> install, come back if it still doesn't work."
 
> I never thought it would work but it did! It seems there is something wrong 
> in the firmware the drives are shipped with and some suppliers obviously 
> know this considering my experience... When I was running the DFT test 
> utility it was telling me my drive is broken and needs to be returned. 
> After the firmware update the same test utility passed all tests repeatedly!

This is unacceptable; if my problem is really fixable by a firmware
upgrade IBM should have pushed this very upgrade publically after they
started to learn about the problem. Saying "Hey, BTW: if you had this
firmware version you would never have experienced your data loss" is
a very strong argument to never buy any IBM hardware again.

Still, the techsupport insisted on a software problem and didn't mention
a firmware upgrade; up to now I didn't even knew such a thing exists.
And letting customers lowlevel-format a drive, restore their data,
and experience the same problem again a week later is anything but
professional.

Though the timespan makes me curious: Why is there a magnitude
difference in runtime between the first problem on a fresh drive
and after a lowlevel format?

-- 
Servus,
       Daniel


  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-05 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-05 10:27 IBM Desktar disk problem? venom
2002-07-05 10:40 ` Jens Axboe
2002-07-05 10:50   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-05 12:36     ` Jens Axboe
2002-07-05 13:27   ` venom
2002-07-05 14:15     ` Tomas Konir
2002-07-05 14:26       ` Jens Axboe
2002-07-05 14:48         ` Tomas Konir
2002-07-05 15:38           ` Daniel Egger
2002-07-05 15:42             ` Tomas Konir
2002-07-05 20:11       ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-05 20:21         ` Tomas Konir
2002-07-05 20:39           ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-05 20:50             ` Tomas Konir
2002-07-05 22:58               ` Matthias Andree
     [not found]         ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0207052216410.3293-100000@moje.ich.vabo.cz >
2002-07-05 21:05           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-05 21:08             ` Tomas Konir
2002-07-07 12:46               ` Timo Jantunen
2002-07-11 15:14                 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-10 16:15               ` Bill Shirley
2002-07-10 17:09                 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-05 23:00             ` Mohammad A. Haque
2002-07-05 12:50 ` Daniel Egger
2002-07-05 14:03   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-05 13:50     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-07-05 15:18     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-07-05 16:58       ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-05 15:23     ` Daniel Egger
2002-07-05 20:23     ` Matthias Andree
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207050801190.10105-100000@hawkeye.luckynet. adm>
2002-07-05 14:29     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-05 15:32       ` Daniel Egger [this message]
2002-07-05 16:57         ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-09 13:23         ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-09 20:35           ` Daniel Egger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-05 15:04 Randal, Phil
2002-07-05 18:01 Voluspa
2002-07-05 18:05 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-07-05 18:19   ` Voluspa
2002-07-11 19:29 Iain Thomas

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