From: Robert Love <rml@mvista.com>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: Rick Lindsley <ricklind@us.ibm.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
kernel-janitor-discuss
<kernel-janitor-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: BKL removal
Date: 09 Jul 2002 14:12:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1026249175.1033.1178.camel@sinai> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020709210053.GF25360@holomorphy.com>
On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 14:00, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> This is an ugly aspect. But AFAICT the most that's needed to clean it
> up is an explicit release before potentially sleeping.
Yep that is all we need... remove the release_kernel_lock() and
reacquire_kernel_lock() from schedule and do it explicitly everywhere it
is needed.
The problem is, it is needed in a _lot_ of places. Mostly instances
where the lock is held across something that may implicitly sleep.
Places that call schedule() explicitly holding the BKL are rare enough
we can probably handle them. I have a patch that does so (thus turning
all cond_resched() calls into no-ops with the preemptive kernel -- my
goal). The other implicit situations are near impossible to handle.
Summary is, I would love to do things like dismantle the BKLs odd-ball
features... cleanly and safely. Good luck ;)
Robert Love
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-07-09 21:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0207061306440.8346-100000@imladris.surriel.com>
[not found] ` <3D27390E.5060208@us.ibm.com>
2002-07-07 20:55 ` BKL removal Greg KH
2002-07-07 21:28 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-07 21:58 ` Dave Hansen
2002-07-07 22:38 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-07 21:35 ` Dave Hansen
2002-07-07 21:55 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-07 22:42 ` Dave Hansen
2002-07-07 23:07 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-07 23:23 ` Dave Hansen
2002-07-07 23:34 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-07 23:42 ` Sean Neakums
2002-07-07 23:31 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-07 23:45 ` Dave Hansen
2002-07-08 2:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-07-08 2:52 ` Dave Hansen
2002-07-08 3:06 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-08 12:33 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-07-08 14:53 ` Dave Hansen
2002-07-08 12:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-07-08 2:58 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-08 3:06 ` Dave Hansen
2002-07-08 12:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-07-08 6:34 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-07 23:23 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-07 23:31 ` Dave Hansen
2002-07-07 23:51 ` Greg KH
2002-07-08 0:07 ` Dave Hansen
2002-07-08 2:12 ` Greg KH
2002-07-09 1:46 ` Rick Lindsley
2002-07-09 4:38 ` Greg KH
2002-07-09 19:31 ` Rick Lindsley
2002-07-09 20:17 ` Greg KH
2002-07-09 20:55 ` Rick Lindsley
2002-07-09 21:00 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-09 21:12 ` Robert Love [this message]
2002-07-09 14:19 ` Dave Hansen
2002-07-09 21:29 ` Robert Love
2002-07-09 14:44 ` Dave Hansen
2002-07-09 21:47 ` Robert Love
2002-07-10 1:15 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-07-10 3:27 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-09 20:49 ` Dave Hansen
2002-07-10 5:30 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-10 10:28 ` Sandy Harris
2002-07-18 0:30 ` David Wagner
2002-07-18 1:03 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-09 21:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-09 22:21 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-10 13:31 ` jlnance
2002-07-10 14:17 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-15 20:53 ` Alexander Hoogerhuis
2002-07-15 22:07 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-15 22:25 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-09 19:33 ` Rick Lindsley
2002-07-09 20:12 ` Greg KH
2002-07-09 4:49 ` Drew P. Vogel
2002-07-09 5:25 ` Dave Hansen
2002-07-09 5:21 ` Larry McVoy
2002-07-09 7:59 ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-10 10:03 ` Marco Colombo
2002-07-10 14:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-07-10 16:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-11 9:57 ` Marco Colombo
2002-07-10 21:28 ` Rick Lindsley
2002-07-10 22:24 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-10 23:36 ` spinlock assertion macros Jesse Barnes
2002-07-11 0:54 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-11 1:10 ` Jesse Barnes
2002-07-11 5:31 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-11 7:19 ` george anzinger
2002-07-11 16:35 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-07-11 23:52 ` Sandy Harris
2002-07-12 0:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-12 3:22 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-07-11 18:03 ` Jesse Barnes
2002-07-11 19:17 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-12 12:07 ` Dave Jones
2002-07-12 12:55 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-12 19:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2002-07-12 17:42 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-17 2:22 ` Jesse Barnes
2002-07-17 6:34 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-18 23:36 ` [PATCH] spinlock assertion macros for 2.5.26 Jesse Barnes
2002-07-17 11:09 ` spinlock assertion macros Arnd Bergmann
2002-07-12 20:41 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-07-13 3:21 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-12 17:49 ` Robert Love
2002-07-12 17:58 ` Dave Jones
2002-07-11 10:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2002-07-07 22:24 ` BKL removal Greg KH
2002-07-08 0:56 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-07-10 0:30 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] <0C01A29FBAE24448A792F5C68F5EA47D2B0C8A@nasdaq.ms.ensim.com>
2002-07-08 19:00 ` pmenage
2002-07-08 21:45 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-10 7:32 dan carpenter
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