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From: Luca Barbieri <ldb@ldb.ods.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Linux-Kernel ML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch] threading fix, tid-2.5.47-A3
Date: 17 Nov 2002 14:29:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1037539780.1597.76.camel@ldb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0211171437300.7839-100000@localhost.localdomain>

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> On 17 Nov 2002, Luca Barbieri wrote:
> 
> > I don't understand this: why would glibc use it in exec()?
> 
> i suspect the idea would be to always make every process a proper pthread
> object as well. (but Ulrich will correct me if this is not the case.) This
> means that across fork() we can set up the TID pointer via CLONE_SETTID,
> and after exec() we need the new set_tid_address() syscall to initialize
> it.
"after exec()" == "in the initialization code for the exec'ed program"?
 
> if CLONE_VM is set then the TID is set immediately, before sys_clone()  
> returns. Or are you worried about the fork() case?
Yes.

> this would be fine to me, but i wanted to get away with a single pointer.
Using two pointers would allow to provide all the functionality
mentioned in the discussion on your first clone/tid patch
<http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0208.1/1409.html>.

Calling sys_set_tid_address after fork is equivalent (but non-atomic)
but requires an additional system call.

> Also, this makes the TID value
> nonatomic - debugging code would have to know whether the child has
> already executed the syscall.
Debugging tools already need to be aware of this for process
initialization, so this shouldn't be a serious problem.


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  reply	other threads:[~2002-11-17 13:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-17 12:40 [patch] threading fix, tid-2.5.47-A3 Ingo Molnar
2002-11-17 11:57 ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-17 13:36   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-17 13:49   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-17 13:29     ` Luca Barbieri [this message]
2002-11-17 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-17 19:03   ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-17 19:19   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-17 19:31   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-17 18:27     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-17 20:13       ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-17 20:01   ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found] <3DD7E3E7.6040403@redhat.com>
2002-11-17 18:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-17 20:18   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-17 20:37   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-17 19:54     ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-17 21:17       ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-17 20:16         ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-17 21:45           ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-17 20:35         ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-17 20:44           ` Jamie Lokier
2002-11-17 20:49           ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-17 22:08     ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-17 23:00     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-17 23:23       ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-18  1:33         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-18  3:33           ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-18  3:43             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-18  3:58               ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-18  4:11                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-18  4:31                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-18  6:46                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-18 16:00                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-18  8:07                   ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-18  8:21                     ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-18  8:27                       ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-18  8:30                 ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-18 12:21                   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-18 12:50                     ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-18 12:26                   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-18 13:20                     ` Alan Cox
2002-11-18 13:03                       ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-18 16:24                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-18 16:42                       ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-18  1:46       ` Jamie Lokier
2002-11-18  3:40         ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-18 22:22           ` Jamie Lokier
2002-11-17 23:37     ` Ulrich Drepper

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