Re: What's left over.

Alexander Viro
2002-10-31T17:24:34Z

On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Stephen Frost wrote:

> So you're not really arguing against ACLs, you're complaining that
> userspace is broken when there's shared write access. That's fine,
> userspace should be fixed, inclusion of ACLs into the kernel shouldn't
> be denied because of this. ACLs should be optional, of course, and if
> you want them some really noisy warnings about the problems of shared
> writeable area with current userspace tools. Of course, that same
> warning should probably be included in 'groupadd'.

No. I'm saying that ACLs do not have a point until at least basic
userland gets ready for setups people want ACLs for. Adding features that
can't be used until $BIG_WORK is done is idiocy in the best case and
danger in the worst. Especially since $BIG_WORK does not depend on these
features.